Steve 0:12

Buena Vista Social Club is a studio album by Buena Vista Social Club, an ensemble of Cuban musicians directed by Juan de Marcos Gonzalez and American guitarist Rai Cooter. The album, their one album they put out, was a critical and commercial success and remains the best-selling fully Spanish-language album of all time worldwide. It was its release was followed by a short concert tour in Amsterdam and New York's Carnegie Hall in 1998. It's a fucking banger. This is Nirvana the Band, The Show, the Podcast, a podcast where we discuss all of Nirvana the Band, the show, and the movie in an attempt to get Matt Johnson and Jay McCarroll to come on as guests. I'm Steve, and these are my co-hosts. I'm Michelle, and I'm Kit. How are we doing today?

Michelle 0:58

Phenomenal. Well, I've just learned quite a bit about the Buena Vista Social Club, so I'm great.

Steve 1:03

I listened to that album all week. It's so good.

Michelle 1:06

I did not, but I enjoyed the music that I heard in this episode of Nirvana the Band The Show.

Steve 1:12

Hell yeah. Um also there we're going to talk about it, but there is a documentary of Inventors that chronicles the making of and aftermath of the album coming out.

Michelle 1:22

I'm so glad that you deep dived, deep dove, dove deep into the Buena Vista Social Club. Um, because I'm really looking forward to learning about it. Uh I think the extent of my research was reading the Wikipedia page and trying to figure out if they were actually a band for more than like a single album. It's a good thing. And the answer was complicated. Yeah.

Steve 1:46

Incredibly complicated. Um, I had that album on CD. I listened to it quite a bit in the late 90s, early 2000s. Um so, and the documentary I like fine. But uh yeah, I I decided, you know, because we were doing this episode, one of which is the Wonderfist Social Club, to go back and listen to the album a bunch. But before we get into the episode, we have some top-of-the-show housekeeping to do. Let's get into it. Have we heard from any of our guests? Our desired guests? Let me check the board. Matt and Jay?

Kit 2:18

Uh, no, we have not.

Steve 2:19

The Cloverfield Monster.

Kit 2:21

Cloverfield Monster was on the show. Yeah, close personal friend at this point. Friend of the pot.

Steve 2:26

Yeah. Uh, the fan page moderator. Secrets.

Michelle 2:29

Maybe. Maybe. Have we heard from Jay's dad? I keep throwing paper airplanes out the window, and they're just not getting where they need to go. So no word yet.

Steve 2:39

Lydia Tarr?

Kit 2:40

Uh, no, sadly, but I have been sending what I think her account is in Monster Hunter a lot of messages. So maybe we'll hear back.

Steve 2:48

Cool. Um, Connor Ratliff, we have not. Verna Herzog, Michelle, has he reached out to you? I know you guys are butts.

Michelle 2:55

Uh, no, but I feel like the mail's gonna come in in a surprising way.

Steve 2:59

And finally, Seth McFarlane, but to only talk about Frank Sinatra.

Michelle 3:03

Old Blue Eyes has has not responded to our messaging yet.

Steve 3:07

God, could you imagine if Zombie Frank Sinatra reached out?

Michelle 3:10

Before Seth McFarlane? I mean, if we got zombie Frank Sinatra on the show, Seth would would follow soon.

Kit 3:18

Let me dig a little bit. I'll find Zombie Frank Sinatra's email. He's coming on the pod, man.

Steve 3:23

Hell yeah. Tom, fuck off.

Kit 3:25

Uh we hate Zombie Frank Sinatra now? This is breaking news. That guy was pretty racist. I don't know anything about this man except for that song he sang that everyone likes.

Steve 3:37

That singular song that Frank Sinatra sang.

Michelle 3:40

That one song that I know, Mac the Knife. That's him, right?

Steve 3:45

He does a version of it, but it is Bobby Darren, and Bobby Darren is one of the greatest singers of all time. Hi, I really love Bobby Darren. Anyway, uh Who is Bobby Darren?

Michelle 3:54

He's the splish splash I was taking a bath guy. Oh shit. Okay.

Steve 3:59

Obviously, in the great musical biopic directed by and starring Kevin Spacey.

Kit 4:05

Oh. What?

Steve 4:07

New homework kit. Gotta look up Bobby Darren's Greatest Hits. Anyway.

Kit 4:11

Is that the movie with Kevin Spacey or is this a different, separate thing?

Steve 4:14

Yeah, that's what he called the movie, Bobby Darren's Greatest Hits.

Kit 4:16

That's a great name for a movie.

Steve 4:18

Yeah. Bobby Darren, Dopus.

Michelle 4:19

There's a Bobby Darren musical right now. There is. And Jeremy Jordan's playing Bobby Darren.

Steve 4:25

It's true.

Michelle 4:25

These are all sentences that have words in them to me. And before Jeremy, it was Jonathan Croff. And for a brief period, I think it was the teacher from Glee, who may or may not be evil. Unclear. I thought he was evil. I know that, maybe. I think the actor might not be, but I think Mr. Shu from Glee was. This is this is a conversation for a different podcast.

Steve 4:48

Nirvana the band. The show. Reacher. Glee. Glee.

Michelle 4:55

I can't I can't commit to that.

Steve 4:57

And then we all commit ritualistic suicide on there.

Michelle 5:01

Yeah, yeah.

Steve 5:02

We live stream our deaths.

Kit 5:04

Um my god, faces of death. Let's go.

Steve 5:08

Uh one last bit of housekeeping kit. Have you listened to pet sounds?

Kit 5:12

I've listened to so many sounds, dude. I listen to pet sounds, I listen to airplane sounds, ambulance sounds. Uh no, I did listen to pet sounds, and it fucking rocks. Like, I don't know if anyone knows this, but pet sounds by the Beach Boys is like actually so good. Like an underrated classic, many are saying. Um, yeah, no, it fucking rocks.

Steve 5:34

I'm really happy for you. Me too. I'm glad you got to do this.

Michelle 5:38

I'm glad you got to do that, and I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Kit 5:41

Yeah, no, it I took your advice to find my nicest headphones and listen to it, and I did, and it was just really, really good. There were songs I knew. Uh, I didn't realize they were on that album. Um, but yeah, I really, really enjoyed it. I understood.

Michelle 5:55

Who were the ones you knew?

Kit 5:57

I knew wouldn't it be nice? I knew God only knows. And I think I knew I just wasn't made for these times for some reason.

Steve 6:06

Hmm. We do have some younger listeners. They may not be weird music nerds in their 30s and 40s and may not know pet sounds. So we might be doing them a favor here. You should listen to pet sounds.

Michelle 6:18

Get your best headphones. It's so good. You have probably heard God Only Knows. I am really surprised that that oh my god, which song did you say you just uh it was Wouldn't It Be Nice?

Kit 6:31

Um, God Only Knows, and then the other one, I've already closed Apple Music. Um hold on, let me type it back in, pet sounds. Uh it was uh I believe it was I Just Wasn't Made for These Times.

SPEAKER_03 6:46

Hmm.

Michelle 6:46

I'm so curious what that was in or where you would have heard it, because I think that is a really good song on that album that doesn't get talked about very much. Um just having like a I don't know if it even technically is a chorus, but it's just I just feel so sad. That's a vibe. I feel so sad sometimes, and you know what? I do. I do feel so sad sometimes.

Steve 7:08

It's true. You two do not know how happy I am that we've just gone off on a Beach Boys tangent on this episode.

SPEAKER_04 7:16

Why is that?

Steve 7:17

I fucking love the Beach Boys so goddamn much. Well, not now, now it's just Mike Love uh being racist. But before that, when Brian Wilson was around, love the Beach Boys. So it just makes me really happy that somewhere in my life I can have a Beach Boys corner that's not fighting with my father-in-law.

Kit 7:35

We could have a Beach Boys corner every episode.

Steve 7:38

Don't tempt me, it's make these episodes 3,000 hours long.

Kit 7:42

I'm okay with that. It's a show within a show, the Beach Boys.

Steve 7:46

You so desperately want a show within the show.

Kit 7:48

I do really badly.

Steve 7:49

So, first up today, we're gonna be talking about the Nirvana of the Band, the show, the web series, uh, bonus episode, the Buena Vista Social Club. While Jay is at home composing his own soundtrack to the movie Madagascar 2, Matt is in Cuba looking for the Buena Vista Social Club. Opening credits, Star Trek. How do we feel about this? Confused.

Kit 8:10

This is bizarre in the best way.

Steve 8:13

This is one of my favorite things from the web series.

Michelle 8:17

Really? I liked it, but I'm surprised to hear that it's a favorite. But one of the notes I wrote down was like, I feel like there's a lot that I'm missing here. And maybe you, with significantly more knowledge about the Buena Vista Social Club than me, will be able to shed some light on what on earth is happening in this episode.

Steve 8:37

So I've thought about this a lot. The thing is, this is what's weird. You don't actually need that much knowledge because the documentary Buenas Vistas Social Club opens with one of the members of the band going around looking for the site of the original Buena Vista Social Club.

Michelle 8:54

Interesting.

Steve 8:55

He's like, Do you know where it is? And he's going around, and then eventually it comes out very quickly, mind you, this is the first like 10 minutes of the documentary that like it's been turned into somebody's house and it doesn't exist anymore. And it only exists through the music and the people. And that's kind of the very Twee conceit, right? Like, is that the place doesn't exist, but it exists. And the joke of this episode is that Matt is looking for the band the Buena Vista Social Club and asking everybody where it is. That's the extent of it. He's just doing a direct parody of the first five to ten minutes of a documentary.

Michelle 9:27

That is such a funny film nerd answer to what the fuck is going on in this episode. Does the J component of this have anything to do with the documentary, or is that its own thing? I assume Madagascar 2 wasn't mentioned in this documentary from it was mentioned. Well, it wasn't out yet. It was probably Madagascar 1.

Steve 9:47

Not the Escape to Africa. The reason I like this one is they're both kind of on the same journey. It is the two of them trying to find joy while struggling to achieve a creative goal. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. This is a lot deeper, I think, than a lot of the other web series, where it's really just a sli almost like a slice of life episode, right? Like it's we're watching these two guys on parallel journeys coming back together in the end. And I found something really charming about that. I love a slice of life documentary or a slice of life movie, and this is what it is. We're just watching our two little buddies go through a 24-hour period, both being frustrated that they can't do the thing they desperately want to do for creative reasons. I don't know how you two felt. That's how that's my takeaway from this episode.

Kit 10:41

Yeah, I mean, I I really like this episode because of very a very different reason. I I didn't really think about it in that perspective of it being like them both attempting a creative endeavor and kind of failing. For me, it was just kind of like another situation where their friendship is tested in a way where Matt is going all out to he's seen this documentary, he is going to Cuba to figure out like how these people that he saw in the documentary were able to achieve their dreams. He wants to do that for the band. And so he's left and gone to do this thing, right? Complete fool's errand type situation for the band. Jay, however, doesn't believe that Bat has left at all to go to Cuba. He thinks he's like playing Scrabble by himself or he's in a Cuban restaurant or whatever, and he's getting angry at Matt for not being around to help him with his creative project of doing the Madagascar 2 spec script or spec score. Um, and it's just like funny to see Jay be so upset about this because it's just like you don't need Matt to be there to do this. You could just sit down and do it. It's another one of those situations where I feel like these two are kind of like a set, do not separate, where it's just like, Jay, you don't really need Matt there. You just want him there. You can definitely sit down and like hammer out the spec score, and then when he's back, he can listen to it.

Steve 12:06

Yeah. And they reveal at the end it's been a day.

Kit 12:09

Yeah.

Michelle 12:10

I I think similar to my reaction to the Battle of the Bands, I was just a little bit sad the whole time because yeah, I don't like when our boys are apart and they're apart this whole time and calling each other and sometimes missing each other, but just like not being on the same level and um trying to catch up. And there were parts of it that I really enjoyed, but I think when they're apart, it's always a little less fun for me.

Steve 12:40

So to very briefly go through the plot, which we kind of did, we're not under selling it. It's Matt goes to Cuba, he's wandering around talking to people, trying to find the one of us social club, ends up thinking he finds them, and it's just a bunch of people dancing to music like at a hotel bar uh stage. While Jay is Matt is like making pop culture references to Jay, Jay keeps going to the video store to take out whatever that project is and not writing his spec score. That's the entire episode. And I love how little plots.

Michelle 13:11

I, from from the first shot where Matt is on the phone with Jay and sort of like walking with a bag down a hill, I was like, oh, this is funny. They're gonna pretend that Matt's in Cuba, but they're just gonna be trying to make different parts of wherever he is look like Cuba. There's no way he's actually in Cuba. And then when it becomes obvious that he is actually in Cuba, I was so startled and confused. And I think that whole the whole episode I was waiting to figure out, like they could they can't have possibly gone to Cuba just to film this thing, right? And I don't have an answer, and the commentary certainly doesn't answer it.

Steve 13:49

And there's like no info on this online. I there it's weirdly one of the few episodes you can't find anything about. Or I couldn't find anything about I couldn't find anything either.

Michelle 13:59

Yeah, me neither.

Steve 14:00

I want to do my um way too deep analysis on this, and I'm probably wildly speculating here. But while the Buena Vista Social Club documentary is widely praised, it's in the Criterion Collection, I believe. Like it's considered one of the best doc like best love documentaries of the late 90s, or 90s in general. One of the bits of criticism, I believe it was from Roger Ebert, was that the documentary focuses on the perspective of the white musicians and white producers that went to Cuba to recruit these older musicians. Um and it sees the movie through the lens of uh the white, I think they're American guys. Including like constantly during musical performances panning up to their faces. But I do wonder if Matt was being a little subversive here. Because his journey to Cuba is him being very clueless. He's not doing like silly pranks, right? He's being there, he's being awkward. But we're seeing Cuba through the lens of this clueless white guy from Canada. And I just wonder, is Matt doing a weird commentary on the documentary?

Kit 15:10

I mean, I think it's possible. I think that could be the intention, but in watching this and some of the interactions that Matt has with people in Cuba, I don't know if I necessarily agree with it. Like there are a few moments where like Matt is just like I don't know if it was the character Matt intentionally being racist or what the deal was, but there is like one moment where he's like, I'm sorry I don't speak Mexican. And I'm just like, brother, you don't need to be doing that. Um so I mean, maybe, but I don't know. I tend to read Matt, the character, and whatever inclination Matt, the real person, is trying to do in the 2008 series in general, is sort of like edgy white guy stuff. Like maybe it does land there, but to me, often I don't think it's much deeper than that.

Michelle 16:03

Yeah. I think it's hard to really feel like I can fully weigh in since I haven't seen the documentary. It feels possible, but uh I I don't know.

Steve 16:13

This could also, you know, I think Kit you were saying it could be one of those things where it ends up doing that without meaning to do it. Which is probably more accurate. Just for me, I'm sitting there watching, I'm like, yeah, this is just a heightened version of that thing that my beloved Roger Ebert complained about.

Kit 16:30

Yeah. I mean, it's it's definitely possible. I just don't know if I trust Matt Johnson in this time period to say anything meaningful about race. I think that's totally fair.

Steve 16:41

I wouldn't even look at him trying to say something about race. I kind of view it through the lens of him wanting to dunk on Vim Benders.

Michelle 16:48

Mm-hmm. That feels more plausible. Yeah.

Steve 16:52

I didn't read it as like he has this like deep thing to say. Uh I think I read it as he may have read that like scathing Roger Ebert review and decided to make a thing dunking on a popular but when they get on the show, we're gonna ask them. I'll add it to my running list of questions. The most interesting thing I think in this one is, you know, given a lot of the messaging around Cuba at the time, mostly in America, and I assume it found its way to Canada, uh, Matt going and and repres and showing all of the people as kind and you know, charming and welcoming to this outsider, even if inadvertent, like ends up being a little piece of culture that pushes back on these like Cuba is a hellscore where everyone's suffering at all times, narratives that were so prevalent at the time.

Michelle 17:49

Yeah, definitely. I feel like I was not quite old enough or socially aware enough at this time to have like a super good grasp on what the public narrative about Cuba was. But I had a I don't I don't know that it's changed a whole lot.

Kit 18:07

And also I I feel like what we as Americans know was the public narrative might be different from Canada. Because I don't think Canada ever had I don't think they ever stopped trade with Cuba. I I don't I don't know how entrenched any of the culture war stuff that we have about Cuba was in Canada.

Michelle 18:28

That's a good point because I think my initial reaction of like there's no way they're actually in Cuba is based on like that it's pretty hard to get to Cuba if you live in America and you like have to sort of take these roundabout ways. And and it's hard and it's weird. And there are a lot of parts of the world where you can simply fly there like you would fly to anywhere in the Caribbean.

Steve 18:48

Well, in the 80s and 90s, at least to my memory of culture, and this maybe this is like the age difference thing with us, like sitcoms and movies made commentaries were like, and I'm not gonna weigh in on the Cuban government history. I have no right to do that, but like Castro as a villain and Cuba as like this like movies like doing like allegories for Cuba as like a horrible fascist state and everybody's suffering, and just like jokes about people escaping Cuba, the whole Ilean Gonzalez trial, you know, and all of that. It's just for me being, you know, in 1999, when uh Bonavista Social Club, the documentary came out, like that seemed like such a breath of fresh air when I saw it, you know, to what messaging I had been receiving for my whole life. And it could just be like my corner where I've received things through culture or people around me. It just putting it in the context of where I was at at the time, it was it's watching this is just so interesting to see this positive representation. I don't know if you remember, I can't believe I'm going down this road, but when the Fate of the Furious came out.

Michelle 19:58

Huh? It's not what I was expecting. Where are we going?

Steve 20:02

Hear me out.

Michelle 20:03

Where are you driving us?

Steve 20:05

Sir, I believe it was the first major Hollywood movie to ever shoot in Cuba once Obama like allowed people in. Because it wasn't until Barack Obama visiting that a US president had visited in forever. So Fate of the Furious shooting in Cuba was like this huge deal that an American movie was coming to Cuba with like and trying to make it work.

Michelle 20:29

Fascinating.

Steve 20:30

I did a lot of this research for my Vin Diesel podcast.

Michelle 20:33

But um I have a little to no recollection of the Fate of the Furious. Do they race the funneled cars?

Steve 20:41

Yes. Of course. And it like is burst into flames while Dominic Geretto's driving it. It's like the only good scene in that movie. And he's like driving backwards because the engine's on fire and he just like throws it into the ocean. It does feel vaguely familiar, yeah. Yeah. So for me, I and it just could be the way my brain works. But I walked out of this episode, and the first time I saw this as well, the Bonifesa Social Club episode being like, wow, that's like a really positive portrayal of Cuba in a time period where that wasn't really a thing.

Michelle 21:11

Hmm. That's interesting. Mm-hmm.

Steve 21:13

Again, this is me, a fucking white person from New York City talking. Um, but since we're talking about this episode, I've just, you know, I thought it might be interesting to go down the road of the cultural context.

Michelle 21:26

Yeah, absolutely. Mm-hmm. Do we want to talk about the other half of this episode of Back in Toronto, what Jay's up to? Of course. Uh this for me, I I was disappointed that this is not one where um the opening credits theme like actually has a huge amount of influence on the plot because I wanted to see an alien on the show. Maybe that's waiting for me in the Vice Land series. Fingers crossed. Um, but there's a lot of Star Trek, and I don't think this has come up yet, but I do have an in house Star Trek special. Oh, do you? I do. Do we wanna fact check?

Steve 22:04

Yeah.

Michelle 22:05

Absolutely. Okay. Let me go collect my specialist.

Kit 22:08

One moment, please. This is great because I watched Star Trek as a child and I have no recollection.

Steve 22:15

I have only seen movies. Oh, really? And a couple episodes of Next Generation.

Kit 22:19

I've seen the show, not not many of the movies.

Steve 22:22

When have you ever known me to watch TV as a movie person? Hi, friends. Hi, Patrick. Welcome to the podcast.

Kit 22:29

Hello.

Steve 22:30

How are we?

unknown 22:31

Good.

Steve 22:31

Doing alright. How are you? I'm great. So we really wanted to get your expertise on something. Okay. Uh, what does Janeway to Bridge mean?

SPEAKER_00 22:39

What does Janeway to Bridge mean? Uh Captain Janeway is the uh captain of the USS Voyager uh of the Star Trek series Voyager. Janeway uh calls to the bridge. The bridge is where uh people in command sit. Uh so when she's calling to the bridge, she's looking for people in charge other than herself. Thanks so much. Take care. Have a good night.

Kit 23:03

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 23:03

Love you. Bye. Love you too.

Steve 23:05

Bye. The ongoing bit of where I bully everyone's partners.

Kit 23:09

Yeah, that was really helpful. I learned what a bridge was. I have one to sell you. Well, if you'd like it.

Michelle 23:15

Oh my god, I love.

Steve 23:16

Is it the one that Ferkie talked about? Because that's the only bridge I've ever heard of.

Michelle 23:20

Yeah. London, London Bridge in Brooklyn.

Steve 23:23

Lundy, Londy, Londy.

Michelle 23:24

Did you know the original London Bridge is in Arizona? What? They they tore it down and carried it over to Arizona. Why not? And rebuilt it. Arizona. There's not a lot of water. I'm sure there's a reason I don't remember it, but I do know it's over there.

Steve 23:41

I'm a big fan of their iced tea, so Arizona can have them.

Michelle 23:44

Yeah, it's they store all of the big 99 cent cans on the original London Bridge.

Steve 23:50

That sounds like a great day out. Sing a little song, have some green tea. But uh, so great. Thank you so much to Patrick for uh answering what Jane Wait a bridge meant. Jay had a really hard time with it.

Michelle 24:02

Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty tough. You know, I I have watched a lot of Star Trek, but I am mostly watching it in the context of it's on in my house and I'm asking who kisses on the show. Um, and sometimes rooting for people who don't kiss on the show to kiss on the show. And that's sort of my main level of engagement.

Kit 24:22

Have you gotten anyone that you wanted to kiss on the show to kiss on the show? Ooh, who what was your biggest win?

Michelle 24:29

Uh my biggest win is in probably the least liked Star Trek series of them all, which is Enterprise, um, where Scott Bacchula is the captain. Um, and uh I forget what his title is, but Commander Trip Tucker and DePa, who is a very hot Vulcan woman, um uh they smooch a little bit. Not as much as they should, but but it feels like me chanting Kiss at the TV reached through the years back to 2002 and made them and made them kiss. It's a it's a show that multiple times while we were watching it, we were like, wow, I could really tell that this was made in the years immediately after 9-11. Isn't that weird? Oh no.

Steve 25:14

My favorite era of culture.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

It's a really strange one.

Kit 25:17

Just a lot of close-ups of American flags for some reason, or uh not no.

Michelle 25:25

It's hard to explain.

Steve 25:27

Now, do I ever get to kiss Jonathan Frakes? Is the real question.

Michelle 25:31

I think that's up to you and Jonathan Frakes. Would the trombone be involved?

Steve 25:37

Whatever it takes, baby. Get that scratchy beard, smooch emo face. So Jay goes to the video store to get the videos, and there's a giant Blues Brothers 2000 poster there, and it broke my fucking brain.

Michelle 25:49

Once again, you are paying attention to details in the background that I would never have noticed in a million years.

Kit 25:56

Yeah. Why did that break your brain? Why would you hang up? Blues brothers 2000.

Michelle 26:01

Yes! I genuinely don't know. I have no clue what that is. Oh it registered like a full 20 seconds after you said it that you weren't just saying blues brothers. And I was like, why would you be confused about a blues brothers poster?

Kit 26:16

You don't know about Blues Brothers 2000, like actually? Like actually.

Steve 26:20

I don't know what that is. There is a dreadful sequel to the Blues Brothers called Blues Brothers 2000. It's horrible. Who's in it? Um, Dan Aykroyd, uh John Goodman, uh, some other guy who turns out is a secret blues brother. He's a cop that's chasing him, who gets blues brothers powers, and a kid.

Michelle 26:39

Yeah. A cop can't be a blues brother. He isn't that one.

Steve 26:42

He isn't that one. Um what is most famous for me, hold on.

Michelle 26:47

I can't believe we haven't watched this movie together.

Steve 26:51

It feels like one of the terrible films that you hoist upon us. I saw Blues Brothers 2000 in theaters twice. Of course you did. Based on that viewer, some total of information I have about that movie. This may mean nothing to you two, but at the end of the movie, there's a battle of the bands, and the Blues Brothers brand has to go up against a band called the Louisiana Gator Boys. Sick. And the Louisiana Gator Boys has, and I'm gonna give you a few names here: Gary U.S. Bonds, Eric Clapton, Clarence Clemens, Bo Diddley, Isaac Hayes, Dr. John, B.B. King, Billy Preston, Lou Rawls, Paul Schaefer, Coco Taylor, Travis Tritt, Jimmy Vaughn, Grover Washington Jr., and Steve Wynwood.

Michelle 27:43

I don't know all of those names, but I know quite a few of them, and that's a crazy group of people. Yeah. And that's why I saw it. And did the Louisiana Gator Boys win the Battle of the Bands?

Steve 27:55

Ah yeah, they should have. It really sounds like they should have.

Michelle 27:58

They got a lot of musical geniuses in there.

Steve 28:01

So I walked out of that movie being like, that movie's garbage, but that sequence is exhilarating.

Michelle 28:05

So you went back for another round? Yes. Just to see the Gator Boys. I feel like maybe we need a double feature of Blues Brothers 2000 so that I can see it, and Dracula 2000 so that I can see it. So that I can watch it again. I loved Dracula 2000.

Steve 28:24

I knew we were gonna be friends for life when you had the same reaction to Dracula 2000 that I have had over the years, which is hamina, humana, humana. Look at all these hotties. This movie rules. Oh, for our listeners out there, I made a letterboxed list. You can find it on our blue sky um of movies we've recommended uh on this podcast. You can just search Nirvana the band, the show, the podcast on letterbox list. It's there. I will be adding Dracula 2000. I won't be adding Blues Brothers 2000, but you should go watch that one sequence.

Kit 28:56

Uh my favorite thing about the letterbox is that Steve has logged who recommended it so that he cannot be responsible for the Cloverfield movies that are on the Letterboxd. Mm-hmm. Yep. It's horrific.

Steve 29:10

I also like when you guys are like this great fun Disney Channel movie, and I'm like, Twin Peaks, Firewalk With Me. You should watch that and ruin your week.

Kit 29:20

Yeah, you should watch fucking brink and ruin your week. It's just like Twin Peaks.

Steve 29:26

Just as harrowing as harrowing Firewalk With Me.

Michelle 29:29

It is pretty harrowing. That gravel sequence, no joke, really scared me off rollerblading for life. Steve, maybe that should be your homework.

Steve 29:36

Watch Firewalk with me. Okay. No, watch I think you know that's not what we're saying. Because I do have the Twin Peaks Mozilla A box set, and I'd be happy to That's so crazy.

Kit 29:47

That's not Disney Channel original break.

Michelle 29:50

I need you to understand what Team Puppin Suds means.

Steve 29:54

You know what? I will take that homework. I will watch Brink if I can find it.

Michelle 29:59

Do you have Disney Plus? Yeah. Great news. All the Dcoms are on there. Cool. The DCOMS? The DCOMs. The Disney Channel Original Movies. Oh my god. I also have a copy of it on VHS. Pretty easily accessible to me if if you find out that you need that.

Steve 30:17

Can you can you mail it to me with a VCR? Probably.

Michelle 30:20

Go to my parents' house and steal their VCR and my old copy of Brink.

Steve 30:25

I would love to go just go to your parents' house and watch a VHS too.

Michelle 30:29

Great. That can be arranged.

Steve 30:31

That sounds like a good time.

Michelle 30:32

My mom will make you cheesy salsa.

Steve 30:34

That might end poorly for me.

Kit 30:37

But for our listeners at home, uh Steve is lactose intolerant.

Steve 30:42

In case you didn't put two and two together. Sorry to blow up your spot publicly.

Michelle 30:47

And my butt with the cheesy salsa.

Steve 30:51

So do we want to talk about the commentary?

Michelle 30:54

I would love to, because what the fuck?

Kit 30:58

What an experience that was. I had just finished watching What of the Social Club. I'm having a great time. Jay is so cozy. I'm so excited to find out in the commentary if Jay still has that sweater. Instead, the commentary is with Chris Kelly, who is the video store clerk in What of Vista Social Club, who is watching it in their apartment living room while Matt is upstairs doing God knows what?

Michelle 31:21

Allegedly, he is also the treasurer of the Nirvana the Band, the show fan club. Mm-hmm. Impossible to fact check.

Steve 31:28

Do we think that this rambling surprise commentary because Chris Kelly thought he was going to be doing episode five and then got sprung on, had this one sprung on him? Do we think that they just wanted to be cagey about this episode and that's why they had him do it?

Kit 31:42

Uh I just think it was like a bit, honestly. Because when Chris yells up at Matt, I think that he was just like, yeah, it's funny, it's a bit. You're supposed like you thought it was episode five. It's not. Like, I just thought it was as simple as that. Maybe it's I mean.

Steve 31:57

It could be. Yeah. I think it's so weird that there's no information at this episode. Matt and Jay, when you come on the show, I will be asking you about this. I want to know everything about the Wendavista Social Club episode. The one that probably no one talks about.

Michelle 32:08

Yeah, I'm excited to ask them. I I kept waiting for the commentary for like Matt and Or Jay to run down and be like, haha, here we are, halfway through. We left you alone for seven minutes. And and then they just don't. And poor Chris Kelly sitting quietly drinking a Diet Coke.

Steve 32:30

Stepping on rakes left and right.

Kit 32:32

He was like feeling bad every time he shows up on screen for himself. Oh my god, I felt bad every time because he was just like, Oh, I look so like I think you say you look chubby in one part, and I was like, dude, calm down.

SPEAKER_03 32:44

Chill the fuck out then.

Michelle 32:46

He said he looked like a grad student at one point. And then my I think the the one actual laugh that the commentary track got out of me was at some point, um, there's a shot of a bird flying in the sky, and he says, Oh, there I am again.

Steve 33:01

That was pretty good.

Michelle 33:02

And that was really funny, and I liked it.

Steve 33:04

I was like, when he was like, I don't even know what a Cuban restaurant would serve, I was like, Man, what is your life?

Michelle 33:10

And then he said he assumed that cars everywhere outside of North America had the steering wheel on the other side.

Kit 33:18

I mean, what a fascinating guy. I kind of wish he had done more commentary, to be honest with you.

Michelle 33:23

You said rambling, and I was like, it's I wish he had rambled. I want to hear more from this man's brain, just like the stream of consciousness that's going on in there.

Kit 33:31

Where he was talking about Matt's iPhone and how it was like a sexy piece of machinery for like, I don't know, like five minutes, it felt like.

Michelle 33:40

It was 2009, and not everyone had smartphones yet, which felt like an important thing to remember that maybe he still had like an LG chocolate and he was jealous of a cool touch screen phone.

Kit 33:53

Chris Kelly from the future, I'm telling you, I wish I still hadn't had an LG chocolate. That was a good one.

Michelle 33:59

I wonder if it's a good one. Did Kelly come on the podcast and talk to us about which cell phones you had in the early 2000s, please?

Kit 34:06

Isn't Chris Kelly also the name of that astronaut? Mark Kelly. Mark Kelly, never mind. And his brother Scott. And their other brother, Chris. The third Kelly. The third Kelly.

Steve 34:17

And their sister Clarkson.

Kit 34:20

Oh my god. Clarkson Kelly, you're a genius.

Steve 34:24

Do you think when they came back from space, she said, still since you've been gone?

Michelle 34:29

Yeah. I do.

Steve 34:30

We're doing great. There's so much to talk about on this episode.

Michelle 34:34

It's okay. I think the last couple episodes uh have been sort of monsters, and this one might be a little a little shorter than our last few, which is great.

Steve 34:45

Yeah, and you know, if you weren't on board with our Ariana DeBoes talk last week, I'm sorry, but also not because that's what you're here for. Us. And this is what hanging out with us is like.

Kit 34:58

That's true. Yeah.

Steve 34:59

So anyway, do we have to Yeah, I guess we do.

Kit 35:02

We should talk about the live show. Do we have anything for the interlude before the live show?

Steve 35:08

Unless we want to do Bush on Cuba as our interlude. No, that was just I think about the Bone of It's a Social Club episode all the time. Really? I'm so fascinated by it. I really am so fascinated by it.

Kit 35:20

This is one I never think about. But I also don't have the context of like, I didn't see the documentary, I didn't listen to the soundtrack growing up like you did. Like, yeah, I didn't have that context.

Steve 35:32

For me, it's also this fact that it is this Vim vendors-esque slice of life, like dueling narrative, like parallel narratives though. Like that's what the kind of movies that Vim Vendors makes, you know, it's just like he did perfect days a couple years ago. It's just like here's the sad guy that cleans bathrooms. You know. Um and I I sit there and I watched them both on that like parallel journey, and I'm like, this is so interesting in terms of them as like creators, because that was intentional. There's no way it wasn't, because it ends with Jay being like, Oh, I had a great, you know, don't worry, you know, don't worry about it. Like, I didn't get anything out. And I was like, it's really interesting to see you guys go for an emotional hook and a thematic hook more than just jokes.

Kit 36:17

Yeah, and then they immediately like lampshade it with Matt breaking character and like hitting hitting Jay in the ball. And doing that tap.

Steve 36:26

So that's why I think about time, because it's it's such a stray from the other stuff. Interesting.

Michelle 36:31

Yeah, I think that's I think that's interesting. Um, I did love uh in the scene right before Matt returns that Jay is playing Army by Ben Folds 5. Yeah. In the apartment. Just a nice little nod to that song playing a big role in the show.

Steve 36:48

Um so before we get into the live show, I want to read a tweet that delighted me. Go on. Uh I put it, I put it in our document where somebody posted, uh, what the hell is Matt Johnson doing in Cuba? And someone said, Dude, if I was a little Cuban kid chilling living life, and then one day a white Canadian guy in Fedora brought a camera crew to our neighborhood to record himself dancing with us, I would think about it for the r for the rest of my life.

Michelle 37:14

I'm so curious if any of the people in this video specifically are like have ever seen it.

Kit 37:22

If you were in this, please send us an email.

Steve 37:26

Yeah, send uh yeah, send us a voice memo, email us, whatever. We'd love to hear from you. And what was that like? Yeah. Because it seems deranged. Incredible.

unknown 37:35

Incredible.

Steve 37:36

So so lastly today, we have Nirvana the Band, the show, live at the Rivoli. Plot. It's Nirvana the Band, the show, live at the Rivoli. Sure is. Sure was. They did it.

Kit 37:51

They're playing the Rivoli.

Steve 37:53

Cool. How do we feel about this?

Kit 37:56

I think there's some good bits in this. I mean, they do kind of like retell the series a little bit during the live show, and I think that's cute and fun. Um, there's some good performances. I love the Mark inside. I've really enjoyed their set. Um, yeah, I I liked it.

Michelle 38:11

I think my main thoughts on this were I have no doubt that this was a really fun show to be at. It was not my favorite like concert recording. I did have some fun. Uh there's a joke that I really desperately hate. Um, and sort of is my overall reaction is like, neat. I wish I had been there. I think it would have been really fun to be there.

Steve 38:35

On my notes here, I said this is stopped making sense for internet nerds and indie rock kids from Canada.

Kit 38:42

Yeah, it was pretty fun.

Steve 38:45

I just it I think, Michelle, nail on the head. Uh like with what your assessment. And also, this is a me thing. None of the bands that play are just my type of music. So I was like, you are all talented musicians. This just isn't doing it for me. My favorite song was when they did the America's Funniest Home Videos theme song.

Michelle 39:05

It was a good, it was good.

Steve 39:07

It was a rockin' and a rollin'. But for anybody who hasn't seen it, basically they do run through a bunch of the stuff from the web series, including Matt posing with the lights, um, him saying this is terrible. One thing I want to talk about that I thought was really, really cute was when they do um a little tribute to the piano sessions by having Matt struggling to fix the screen on stage and asking Jay for help. And then what's the game he plays music from?

Kit 39:35

Uh Final Fantasy VI.

Steve 39:37

Plays that while they show the footage like over Matt's face. And I thought that was a really fun way to like do the piano sessions live.

Michelle 39:43

Oh, interesting. I was wondering what that was, and I was gonna ask you, because we are watching a bunch of these other little bits for a couple odds and ends episodes, and I haven't watched them yet in the spirit of sort of being new to things. And I was wondering what reference I was missing there, and that explains it. Thank you.

Steve 40:03

Yeah. The piano sessions are all Matt struggling to do a chore, asking for Jay for help, and then Jay plays some sort of famous music while they show footage of it over Matt's face. That's nice.

unknown 40:13

Mm-hmm.

Steve 40:13

Uh, I'm looking at my notes here. Didn't like Matt making jokes about how he got a roofie and didn't know what it was.

Michelle 40:19

No. I I know the joke. And like I think if you're gonna do it, like the joke is that he didn't know, and everyone around him is like, don't do that. That's fucked up. It's just I just I think I think there are very few roofie jokes that are gonna land for me personally.

Steve 40:36

Um, what do you guys got on this one? I don't have a ton. I have a couple, a couple little notes here, but do you guys have anything?

Kit 40:43

Um, I love that we got the second verse of Dancers on the Beach with Josh, the song that they improvised during Battle of the Bands. I thought that was great.

Steve 40:51

That was fun. I like that Matt was so nervous the whole time, and it was very clear that like the second he had to do this in front of a crowd, he locked up.

Michelle 40:59

Um, that's interesting. I feel like I didn't I could see that. I didn't read I didn't get that read while I was watching it.

Steve 41:06

Well, I I got that read purely because Matt said on the commentary for the the last episode of the web series that he almost threw up because he was so nervous.

Michelle 41:16

Oh, that's right.

Steve 41:18

And when he's doing bits on stage, because you know he's not doing any of the music, right? He's just doing bits in between the musical acts. He does like glance over at Jay quite a bit, and I thought it was really cute. It almost looked like he was like, Hey buddy, we're doing this. I'm so happy for us, but I'm so nervous.

Michelle 41:36

Yeah. I think I wasn't expecting the live show to be just like mostly a straight-up concert in the way that it was. Um, and like to your point, Matt not being a musician is part of that. I think I was expecting more live comedy.

Kit 41:54

But I guess that's not really what they do. They have that little like fake breakup towards the end where they're in an argument, and Jay's like, you would get it if you were a musician. Um and then it leads into like them, Matt playing with Born Ruffians again.

Michelle 42:08

Yeah. I did like the Born Ruffian songs. Uh, they were very fun. I loved the cover of Tonight Tonight.

SPEAKER_03 42:15

Mm-hmm.

Michelle 42:16

I think it was probably my favorite like single song in the live show. Um, and I like that there's a point where one of the members of the Born Ruffians says to Jay, You look sort of melancholy and sad.

Steve 42:28

Mm-hmm. Good job. Good job. But oh the smashing pumpkins. One of the worst concerts I've ever been to.

Kit 42:35

Oh. Really?

Steve 42:36

Yeah, I saw the reunion tour and Mohegan-Sun Arena.

Kit 42:39

What is what? The casino?

Steve 42:42

Yeah. They have a full ass stadium in there. Oh.

Kit 42:45

Why was it so bad?

Steve 42:47

It was a real we're not trying. Ah. We're here for your dollars. Also, maybe we're depressed that we're playing in a casino stadium.

Kit 42:55

That would do it. Yeah. I won tickets to see them off the radio in college. And I saw them for free. Yeah, I saw them for free, so it was great.

SPEAKER_00 43:03

Okay, cool.

Michelle 43:04

I do think for our Is Matt in Love with Jay corner of the podcast, I wrote down a note that Matt coming on and accusing every time Jay plays with other musicians, Matt treats it like he's cheating on him. And boy, isn't that interesting.

Steve 43:21

Yeah, it really was.

Michelle 43:22

Discuss is what my note says. I mean it would dilute you.

Kit 43:26

That's all I'm saying.

Steve 43:27

It would dilute you. What a sweetie.

Kit 43:31

That's not a very sweet thing to say to somebody.

Steve 43:34

I know, but he just I get it. I relate way too much to Matt um in this because I also acted like a dick when I was nervous and insecure at the time. Uh and uh didn't, you know, actually talk about feelings, but which is funny, you know, with me now. But uh just every time he does a little lash out like that, I'm like, I get where you're coming from. I feel you. I just want to hug you, tell you it's gonna be okay.

Michelle 44:02

I was a little bummed that there wasn't more commentary about this show. I think because it's one where I'm curious. I know they say they don't plan stuff, but like obviously they did have to do some amount of planning for this. And there are bits where the joke is we haven't planned it all, and then suddenly, like, there's a perfectly timed video behind us. And I think something in that section that I would be interested to hear from them about is when it comes to those interactions where like Matt's coming on and saying, This will dilute you. Are you playing with other people? Are you joining another band? Was that a plan bit? Is that something that he's coming up with in the moment? Where does that come from? I don't know.

Kit 44:44

Yeah, I think that's interesting. I mean, it does come up quite a bit in the live show, I feel like, because there's that, and then that sort of argument that they get into before the they break up where I think Matt or Jay's yelling at the other one about like you ran out on me, and it like really feels like a couple arguing.

Michelle 45:03

Yeah.

Kit 45:04

So I do think there were parts of it that were pre-planned. I don't know if that exact line was, but that would be a great thing to ask them.

Michelle 45:11

I'll add that also to my list. Do you remember this exact thing from almost 20 years ago?

Steve 45:17

20 years ago. Uh what I read it as is we know what we gotta what button we have to get to, right? Like the joke about what band would you go to, here's the born ruffians. You know what I mean? Stuff like that. Mm-hmm. It was it read to me like, we know where this segment that we're doing starting. We know what the end line we gotta get to is. Let's have a little fun on that journey with what we're saying. That was how it felt to me.

Michelle 45:44

Yeah.

Steve 45:45

Yeah, that makes sense. Uh, there was a really interesting thing I saw on Reddit uh around the concert. Um a user named The Sound of a Fart. Nice.

Kit 45:55

Hell yeah.

Steve 45:56

They said I was there. One thing I remember from the show that is not in the DVD is that there was uh an audio skit running throughout the evening. Like before they got on stage, through the speakers, you could hear Matt and Jay bickering um about going on stage. So apparently during what we besides what we saw, there was um just audio of them miced in the background.

Michelle 46:20

Oh, interesting. I was curious if there was much, if anything, that was left out of this recording. And one of you put the set list for the show in our document, and I was surprised, like, all the songs are in there. So that's an interesting little detail. Thank you. Sound of a fart.

Steve 46:42

Our greatest journalist, Sound of a Fart. Watching this, the one thing that I walked away feeling was I really miss jamming with my friends. Like, I've been in a lot of bands over the years, haven't done it, you know, in a long time. I was like, yeah, it feels really great to just sing a song and play a song with friends that you all know and love. And when they were doing Smells Like Teen Spirit at the end, they basically just turned into like a Canadian indie rock polyphonic spree. And I was like, I that's so joyful. It made me that made me leave with a smile.

Michelle 47:17

I loved the end of them all singing Smells Like Teen Spirit. They're all clearly having such a good time and have just pulled off this thing, and that's the last bit of it. Um, it's really charming, it's really nice.

Steve 47:30

Yeah, it reminded me of like in my youth, you know, being in punk bands or whatever, and when somebody's like, All right, we're just gonna do a cover, and then we would just storm the stage and sing it with them, and it was always so fun, and I it was it made me feel a little nostalgic. That's so nice. But I wanted to ask, just because there wasn't a ton about this, do you two have any favorite concert films?

Michelle 47:53

That's not a genre of movie that I have watched a ton of.

Steve 47:58

Or live performances that you loved, like, or a favorite concert you went to, any sort of, you know, live music history. Or we can abandon this bit completely.

Kit 48:07

Is this a bit? I thought we were learning and growing in our friendship.

Steve 48:11

I was being sincere. I meant bit of the podcast, like as an amount of time, not joke.

Kit 48:17

So I don't think I watched a lot of like like live recordings like that. Um I will say that the one music-related thing that I watched an embarrassing amount of was the the documentary uh Life on the Murder scene uh about my chemical romance. Hell yeah. Came out uh after Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge became very popular. And it was in that beautiful liminal space when they were really blowing up for that and they were starting to record the Black Parade. Um, and so I bought this thing. It was uh DVD and it had a CD with some like unreleased songs and like live recordings and stuff. And one of my favorite songs of all time is on the CD called Desert Song. It's a great song, everyone should listen to it. Um, and I watched it constantly. I was obsessed. Um and yeah, I made John, my partner, watch it recently, and it's much different than I remember because I remember it being more because I was like 14 and this meant everything to me. And it was just like, this isn't really as like in-depth as I thought it was, but back then this was just like the Bible, basically.

Michelle 49:31

Yeah, that's incredible.

Steve 49:33

Nice. How about you, Michelle?

Michelle 49:35

Um, I think the only concert I don't even know if this counts as a concert film. I had a DVD of a real big fish concert that for like, I don't know, three months of seventh grade, I just watched over and over and over again. Many apologies to my parents for that one. Um don't apologize.

Steve 49:55

We got an emokid, we got a ska kid. We're doing great.

Michelle 50:00

A ska kid feels like stolen valor, though. I it was just this one specific real big fish DVD that I loved. Um, that's far from my favorite concert experience, which I think like live and in person a couple years ago, we saw Boy Genius at the Gorge, which is in Washington State, and it's like on the side of a cliff, and it's the most beautiful concert venue I've ever been to in my life. Carly Ray Jepsen opened for Boy Genius, and I cried for probably three hours straight. That's awesome. It was great. I loved it. One of the great highlights of my life.

Kit 50:40

I love that it started off with Carly Ray, which is a completely different emotional energy than Boy Genius.

Michelle 50:47

We planned a whole trip around. I wanted to see Boy Genius on this store. They were playing much closer to where I live on the East Coast. Um, but Carly Ray Jepsen was only opening for their dates in the Pacific Northwest. So we planned a whole trip and went to the North Cascades to see Carly Ray Jepson and Boy Genius perform together. And I got mad at the younger people who didn't appreciate the Queen of Pop for her contributions to music.

Steve 51:18

Youths. Youths. Kit, do you have do you have a favorite live show experience? Yeah, we didn't get yours.

Kit 51:24

Oh. Uh yeah. I am a I'm a big fan of a band called AJJ. Um and the lead singer, Sean Bennett, did a small solo show above a taco place in the middle of nowhere Brooklyn. Um and it was a great experience. It was an early date with me and my partner. Uh we both loved AJJ and were so excited about this. Um yeah, it was a great time. The taco place was delicious. The music was good. They had a great outdoor patio, great for smoking a cigarette and hanging out. It was great. This all sounds so nice. Yeah.

Michelle 52:01

Steve, do you have a favorite live concert experience?

Steve 52:04

In terms of concert films, I referenced it earlier, but one of my favorite films, period of all time, is Stop Making Sense. Jonathan Demi's classic talking heads, Hi I'm basic as fuck. Uh, but that movie is one of the most joyful things ever put to film. Uh so we're talking concert films, that's there. But in terms of live concerts, um so when I was starting college, uh I'm gonna say this was maybe 2001, 2002, like I was about to graduate high school, about to go to college. Um, David Bowie played uh tiny venues around New York City in the order of the New York City Marathon.

SPEAKER_01 52:46

And he played my college auditorium.

Steve 52:50

Whoa. Wow. And I guessed the pre-sale code.

Michelle 52:56

Ooh, do you remember one, two, three?

Steve 53:00

He had an album coming out called Heathen at the time, and I was like, Chicketmaster's fucking stupid. The pre-sale code's gonna be Heathen. And then I put it in and it was like, you're going. I was like, fuck yeah, I'm going to David Bowie in a fucking 500-seat venue.

Michelle 53:15

Uh that's incredible. I'm thinking about how smart and powerful I feel when I am purchasing something from a new website and I just type welcome into the coupon code fields and get 10 to 15% off. And that has to feel like that times 100,000.

Steve 53:33

Yeah, because my my old scan, it's going to date myself, was I would, you know, in Ticketmaster you used to have to call them. I would call out of state Ticketmaster offices.

SPEAKER_03 53:45

Why? So I what was the benefit?

Steve 53:48

Because there would be like really long waits to get tickets for like Bruce Springsteen's playing in Jersey. If you called from New York, you were fucked. But if you called like Colorado, they had access to the same systems.

Kit 54:03

Oh, interesting. Oh, okay, I see the vision.

Steve 54:06

So I would call like the Colorado number and I get right through. I specifically used it for Bruce Springsteen multiple times. I'm 100 years old. Uh, you guys are like, I love Boy Genius, I love MCR. And I'm like, Bruce Springsteen and David Bowie.

Kit 54:19

Um, I also love Bruce. I tried to go see him recently, but his tickets are too damn expensive.

Michelle 54:25

I have seen Bruce Springsteen live, great. I have also seen Hanka's area's E Street cover band live within the last year. It ruled, if you have a chance to see the Easy Street Band, I can't recommend it enough because it's a tight, like 90-minute show that's some Bruce Springsteen songs and a bunch of Hank Isaria voices. What else? There will be a bunch of 60 to 70 year old women and men in that room having the best time of their lives. And me. I will also be there.

Steve 54:59

They played outside of City Fields before a Mets game once. Did you go? I could not.

Michelle 55:06

I'm so sorry.

Steve 55:07

One of my friends sent me a video from it, and all 60s and 70-year-olds having the time of their life in Mets gear. Sounds like the greatest night you could possibly have. It's great.

Michelle 55:18

Hank Azaria is ripped. Is he?

Steve 55:21

Yes. Yeah.

Michelle 55:22

Oh wow. He's kinda hot. Really hot. Not kinda. No qualifiers. Wow.

Steve 55:27

More like hot Azaria.

Michelle 55:29

More like Hunkazaria.

Steve 55:30

There we go. You got it. I I admit when I saw the birdcage, I was like, well, hello.

Kit 55:35

Mm-hmm. He is ripped. What the fuck? Okay.

Michelle 55:41

Yeah. Hank Azaria, come on the show and tell us about your workout routine, please. Can we talk about Springsteen with you?

Steve 55:50

Alright, let me put it on the board. Hold on one second. So Seth McFarlane only allowed to talk about Sinatra, Hank Azaria only allowed to talk about Bruce Springsteen? No, his workout routine. And his workout routine. Sorry. Those two things. Cool. Alright. Well, does anyone else have anything to say about the live show besides this?

Kit 56:07

I thought it was fun. I thought it was cute. I love that it was filmed in July of 2009, and then the commentary was in December. Just feels like that was a big year of wrapping up all of this for them. Which I'm sure was pretty emotional in some ways. Yeah.

Steve 56:23

Yeah. And then, you know, 10 years later they were back at it. Cute little boys. I'm so glad that they got to play the Rivoli. Mm-hmm. That's the thing, is like, no matter what I thought of the show, it was these boys that I love getting their thing, and you know, what can you really complain about?

Michelle 56:42

Nothing at all. So fun. I can't wait to feel how they felt when they come on our show.

Kit 56:49

Yeah, they've been waiting to come on this show. Maybe this is the Rivoli for them. Maybe they've given up on the Rivoli, and the podcast is the new Rivoli. Their new goal is a Zoom with the three of us. Three nobodies they've never met.

Steve 57:04

Well, we guess uh coupon codes and pre-sell codes, so that might sweeten power.

Michelle 57:09

Maybe if we just start guessing email addresses, we'll have some success.

Steve 57:13

Matt.johnson at AOL.com.

Michelle 57:16

Matt Johnson one. Matt Johnson two. Matt Johnson three. Yeah, we'll check the AOLs, the Yahoos, the Hotmails. That's all of them, I think. I don't think there are any other email providers. I'm trying to think of any others, and they're just not coming to mind.

Steve 57:30

ProtonMail.

Michelle 57:31

Mail.com. Those are not thanks. No.

SPEAKER_01 57:34

Mailchim?

Michelle 57:35

Oh.

Kit 57:35

Mail Kim? This is serial now. Oh my god, it's a serial podcast. We go episode by episode. Somebody's done right.

Michelle 57:46

Surely someone has done this. I mean serial, serial. You never know, because that's how this podcast started. If if you want some podcast lore, can feel free to cut this. Um part of how this started is we were joking around about Nirvana the Band, the show, the podcast, and then Googled it and were shocked to realize it hadn't been taken. And now here we are. Yep.

Kit 58:11

Yeah. So if you would like to start your own Nirvana the Band podcast, please do. And then email us at nirvana the pod at gmail.com and we will start a feud and it will be mutually beneficial for the both of us. I think it'll be really fun. I've always wanted to have a feud. Yeah.

Steve 58:26

Hear me out. What if somebody does a podcast about our podcast?

Kit 58:30

Oh wow. It's inception now.

Steve 58:32

Nirvana the Band, the show, the podcast, the podcast.

Michelle 58:36

That sounds fun. Yeah. I'd like someone to psychoanalyze us. Would you? No, absolutely not. Please don't. No, thank you.

Kit 58:44

At least not where I can see. You wouldn't see, you would hear.

unknown 58:48

Fuck.

Steve 58:49

I'm sure it'll come out throughout the rest of the show, but uh one of us makes a joke that goes way too far is kind of the essence of this uh friendship.

Kit 59:01

Ah yeah.

Steve 59:02

That's how you end up at a fucking iHop at one in the morning sampling the Willy Wonka menu.

Michelle 59:09

A treasured memory. Yeah. And we will do it again. That's also how you wind up spending the night in Buffalo Bill's house for your friend's birthday with some beautiful photos of all of us in the well together.

Steve 59:22

Once we get if we get Matt and Jay on, I will I will post the photo of us in Buffalo Bill's well from Sounds of the Lambs.

Michelle 59:28

That feels like a good, affair agreement.

Steve 59:31

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Anyway. Uh one thing we never do on this podcast, we never ask people to rate and review us. Some of you have given us lovely ratings already, but um we would love it if you would do that. It boosts the uh profile of the show. But only if you like it. Only if you like it. Yeah. If you don't like it, fuck off. Email us. Definitely didn't make it.

Michelle 59:53

You can email us your complaints and we'll work on it, but don't give us a bad rating.

unknown 59:57

Please.

Steve 59:58

You know what? You could voicemail and bash us and maybe we'll play it.

Kit 1:00:01

If you're Canadian, we will play it.

Steve 1:00:03

You know what? If you're American, we'll play it. Let's go. No.

Kit 1:00:06

Canadians get spelled.

Steve 1:00:09

Okay, fine. I want to be called a cuck in a voicemail to my podcasts.

Kit 1:00:12

Well then make a Canadian do it.

Steve 1:00:15

Uh anyway, we are going to be back next week with part one of our odds and ends. Let's see how that goes. Infinite new opportunities for us to go off topic.

Michelle 1:00:26

Yes.

Steve 1:00:27

Not that we needed them. Yeah, seriously. Uh these are gonna be just fun little one-off things. It's not gonna be too deep. We're gonna be, as we said last week, we're gonna be doing our picks next week. The following week, we're gonna be doing um fan-submitted ones. Uh, we got some lovely feedback from people, and we're gonna go over your odds and then we're off to Viceland. Can't wait. It's gonna be so fun. We we will have some guests along the way. I think it's gonna be a great time. And uh we'll see you there. As always, nothing like a good feeling.

Kit 1:01:02

Nothing like a good feeling. Nothing like a good feeling.

Steve 1:01:18

Thank you for listening to Nirvana the band The Show the Podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:21

We'd love to hear from you. You can email us or send a voice memo to NirvanaThepod at gmail.com.

Steve 1:01:28

And we're also on Blue Sky and Instagram at NirvanaThePod. Our website is nirvana the pod.com.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:35

Our show is edited by Kit with additional help by John. Special thanks to Anne Meadows for our logo. Oh, and Matt and Jay, if you're listening, we'd love to have you on the show.