Steve 0:00

We Nirvana the Band. Welcome to Nirvana the Band, the show, the podcast. A podcast about Nirvana the Band. Our plan? Get Matt Johnson and Jay McCarroll to come on the show. I'm Steve, and this is my co-hosts. I'm Michelle.

Kit 0:24

And I'm Kit.

Steve 0:26

Guys, we're here. We made it out of that guy's sex basement. We made it back from the Gay Mets.

Michelle 0:32

If you could put the car driving sound in this one too, that would be great. Thank you.

Steve 0:36

Cool. And uh, we're here. We're at the Viceland series. How are we feeling?

Kit 0:41

Better, gayer, metzier.

Michelle 0:44

I feel so empowered by the feeling of Gay Mets night. I could gay Mets anywhere.

Steve 0:51

It's true. That's what the month is for when this comes out in July.

Michelle 0:55

That's gay Mets month.

Steve 0:56

I miss gay Brandon Nemo. Anyway, that's for one listener. Me? Steve re-listening to an edit of this episode. We have to have one other listener that's a Mets fan. Right? Maybe. Please.

Kit 1:12

Are you out there?

Steve 1:13

If you're out there, please message us. Mets us.

Kit 1:17

No.

Steve 1:18

Okay. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry about that. I'll leave. Alright. We have to check the whiteboard. I have it right here. It's getting a little unwieldy, and I think it's time to whittle it down. Okay.

Michelle 1:29

Okay.

Steve 1:29

Uh Matt and Jay, have we heard from them?

Michelle 1:31

My letters have gone unanswered. I am just writing Matt, J on them and then throwing them into the ocean though. So maybe that's maybe there's something wrong there.

Kit 1:42

Yeah, we should check the currents to see if they're moving in the right direction to go up to Canada. Yeah.

Steve 1:48

I turned off all the lights in my bathroom and say Matt and J, Matt and J, Matt and J three times into the mirror. Is that working? Nope. Oh. I did get a spooky lady though.

SPEAKER_04 1:57

Oh. Is she hot?

Steve 1:59

Yeah, we went for a nice dinner. Oh. That's so nice. Yeah. Have her on the pod.

SPEAKER_03 2:05

Hello!

Steve 2:08

It's time to take Clover the Cloverfield Monster off the list because we've had them on the pod. Thanks, old friend. Kit's dream guest, the fan page moderator.

Kit 2:17

Yes. They were here and it was magical.

Steve 2:20

Shout out, Carson. We love you, Carson. We do love Carson. Going off the board, you lovable scamp.

Kit 2:26

And that also uh accounted for literally any Canadian as well. So that's both of my dream guests done.

Michelle 2:33

Yeah. Right off there. We fed two birds with one scone. Yes. Jay's dad? The letters that I throw in after Man Jay are to Jay's dad, and I think they're also probably lost in the currents.

Steve 2:44

And I think they might be bordering on sexual harassment at this point.

Michelle 2:47

So I think it's probably good that they're not making them to him.

Steve 2:51

Yeah. It's weird that you just write a woo-ga on each one and hope for the best. Well, he'll know. Lydia Tarr, we have heard from. Yeah.

Michelle 2:59

Get her off of there.

Steve 3:00

Get her off the list. She has concerts to conduct. It's true.

Kit 3:04

Lydia, can you give us free tickets to your concerts, please?

Steve 3:07

Do you think she's bummed that Trump's not on the Kennedy Center anymore?

Michelle 3:11

He's still up there. Oh no. I was watching the live stream earlier. Okay. It hasn't come. They're really throwing a lot of legal spaghetti at the wall. We don't have to do this.

Steve 3:22

Have we heard from Connor Ratliff? I don't think so. Brenner Herzog? No. I unfortunately think we may need to take those two off the list.

SPEAKER_03 3:32

Okay.

Steve 3:32

Okay. I'm sorry. That's okay. I'll live. Because here's the thing. We need a stronger, a stronger focus. This has gotten too unwieldy. We're in a new era. New names. New goals. Yeah. Except for the main one. Get the Canadian arm from the International Space Station on their show. Yes, they are staying on the list. Fucking go. Seth McFarlane does not want to come on to talk about Frank Sinatra, I'm assuming. Probably not. But we're going to leave him on there just in case.

Michelle 4:02

We're taking off Werner Hertzog, but we're leaving on Seth McFarlane.

Kit 4:05

That's kind of fucked up.

Steve 4:06

Seth McFarlane is off. And I am unhappy to report that we did hear back that Hank Azaria specifically does not want to speak to us about Bruce Springsteen. Or his workout routine. We did get confirmed that he was asked and said no.

Michelle 4:24

Well, was he asked? I've we got a polite rejection that said there's no room on his schedule.

Kit 4:29

So if we just keep doing the podcast long enough, something will open up. Something will open.

Michelle 4:35

Okay. So as of right now. And he'll be he's getting buffered as time goes on.

Kit 4:40

Maybe that's what we do to get him on the pod, is that we need him and Matt to compare workout routines.

Steve 4:47

This is a good plan. So we're gonna revisit Hank in season two of Iceland. We'll come back to Hank. Okay. So as of right now, on the board, deep focus, Matt and Jay, Jay's dad, and the Canada arm of the International Space Station. Mm-hmm. Which is called the Canada arm, actually. Hell yeah. So there we go.

Michelle 5:10

It's like one word, right? Can't Canad Arm. Can Canad Arm.

Steve 5:13

Can't arm.

Michelle 5:14

It's a Canada arm.

Kit 5:15

Come on the pod, Canada Arm.

Steve 5:17

Gang, the banner is the pilot episode of the series in which Matt and Jay drop a huge banner across from the Rivoli. Unfortunately, it turns out to be more revealing than they'd planned. So I want to start with Michelle. How did you feel starting the Vice Land show? How'd you feel about this episode?

Michelle 5:34

I loved it. It's so fun to see them doing this like in a slightly more polished and um not a lot more polished. Like I think it would lose the charm if it was too polished. Like it still feels like them, but it feels like them with like almost 10 years more like experience and thought and having done other work in that time. Um and I love that it is like the same opener as the web series, but a little different. Um I really enjoyed this episode. I cackled a lot. Um, I don't know how, but the like the twist in it had never been revealed to me. So I was like genuinely shocked and surprised. And um I think laughed so hard that I probably annoyed my next door neighbors. It was really, really good.

Steve 6:25

How about you, Kit? How'd you feel revisiting this one?

Kit 6:28

I love this episode. I feel very strongly that the first few episodes of the Vice television show are so incredibly strong. And the banner is absolutely one that I will show people to try to get them into the show. Um, I think it's really fun. I love all the little callbacks that they do to the web series. Um, I think it's so fun when they're calling the Rivoli and they're saying that they've left this package, and then the the flashback is to the episode of the web series where they're like giving the physical package to them, indicating that they did give them banned evidence just 10 years ago. It's really fun. I don't know. I love this episode.

Steve 7:10

God, it's so fucking good. And just a minute, a mini report. Um, I watched this on my movie Blu-ray, because the 4K remaster is on the Blu-ray for the movie of this episode, only this episode, and my mother-in-law is visiting, who whenever I put something on, she's just like, Yeah, what's Steve watching? Let me watch it. And she was Putin and a Hollerin. Yes, is dangerous. She came in once to me watching What One Night in Soho and Raging on the Couch.

Kit 7:38

Oh my god. My apologies to you and your mother-in-law. Edgar Wright belongs in prison for that movie.

Steve 7:44

My god.

Kit 7:45

Fucking hate that.

Steve 7:46

It's a worse crime than the cast of Baby Driver. But Edgar Wright aside, uh what I thought was really interesting is because like she doesn't really share my humor a lot of the time, but she was cackling the whole time. It's really, really good. Like I inadvertently introduced someone to this thing, you know. I hadn't meant it, I was just putting it on for myself to watch today, and I was just delighted to see the joy that this brought someone who had no idea what they were watching. Um But, you know, Michelle, you mentioned the opening before and get you as well. Like, my first note I had was that this is so much more um self-reflective than I realized before. Because, you know, we've spent, you know, a couple of months now talking about the show in depth. And normally, you know, I'd burn through the web series in like a couple days and then jump on Vice Land and go from there and have fun. But you know, sitting and reflecting, this version of Matt is so less confident and less aggro than the one we meet on the first episode of the web series. Because he's like, Oh, we're gonna have a great show for you. Oh, we can't say that, they're gonna be disappointed.

Michelle 9:00

Yeah.

Steve 9:01

And it's it's him so he's so far from the bravado of the first one where he's like, Fuck you! We're the best, we're Nirvana the band. And I was it it just shows the passing of time. And also um, their rapport is so much quicker. Like they get they bounce off each other a lot faster. And you can jump into this as a new viewer, right? But at the same time, if you've really sat with the web series, it is kind of a hey, this opening scene is a hey, let's check in on like where Matt and Jay are now after these years. And I just found that really, really interesting and self-reflective.

Kit 9:39

Yeah, the one thing I I really love about this is that it it feels like obviously we have the luxury of having seen the movie like 10 years after the the vice show has come out. And I love that the beginning of the web series of the vice show and of the movie is still them doing the act, but like doing it in a way where it's like we're introducing you to what this thing is, we are Nirvana, the band, like in that very specific way. And I think there's a lot of play that happens in the Vice Land series in relation to the web series that I think is intentional, that is very fascinating watching them recontextualize and bring back some of those concepts into the Vice Show in a completely different way. And I'm excited for us to go through them together as they come up.

Steve 10:25

Yeah, definitely. Uh, some table setting. You know, I I there's not a lot of info behind the scenes stuff out there just because Vice Land died horribly. But a couple of things I was reading a few interviews that I could find from the time, and a couple of interesting things I read was um the people at Viceland were really into Matt Johnson's work, you know, on the dirties, and they like wanted to recruit him to do something, and he was the one that pitched apparently bringing back Nirvana the Band the show. I thought that was really interesting. Um there was a thing that they revealed in an interview for this that really um allowed me to view this a lot differently, was that they said when they started the web series, they were making it a nondescript city. But they started to realize as they were filming that Toronto was so essential to it, and you can see how that has carried over, where the Viceland one is so much more about them in Toronto than even the web series was. And Jay said something that I found really interesting where he said, you know, we're not saying it, but we are basically two suburban kids like acting like adults in the city and in awe of everything about Toronto. Like going on the subway, exciting, getting on a bus, oh my god. And just talking about it, like that is the viewpoint to look at them is just two suburban little boys like living as adults in Toronto and trying to be cool. And that really unlocked a lot of stuff for me.

Michelle 12:05

That's so funny. Yeah. I I'm surprised to hear that they were trying to make it nondescript because even in the web series, it feels like Toronto is a character in the show. And like I'm learning the names of streets and parks and neighborhoods in Toronto through the course of that that I had no idea about before. Um and I love I love that it sort of became a part of it. That's so that's so nice.

Steve 12:32

And the the other interesting fact was they debuted the first few episodes at TIFF.

Kit 12:36

Oh, interesting.

Steve 12:37

So Matt had shown um the dirties, uh, I believe it's Sundance, and people gave him flack for not premiering his Canadian movie in Canada, and he said something along the lines of like he didn't want it to look like a charity case, that they were just boosting him because he was Canadian. And people got mad at him. Hold on, people got mad at Matt Johnson for saying something. And he was saying that he was really excited to be at TIF and debut um this holy Canadian show there. So, shall we get into the banner? Let's get into it. We talked a little bit about the opening. Um just them calling the Rivoli straight out and Matt spending so much time talking about how he's gonna like try and impress it if a girl picks up the phone and then immediately deflating when it's a guy made me cackle. Uh hi.

Michelle 13:35

Like after spending like a good two minutes. But how he's gonna be so impressed. But the girl picking up the phone is oh, the boys called. That's a great line. Um, the phone call was one of the questions that I had, which I couldn't quite tell, even on a re-listen. Is Jay still doing all of the off-screen voices? I feel like the voice that's on the phone here I would buy as Jay, but I was also by as not Jay, and I and I just can't tell.

Kit 14:03

You know, I'm not sure. I assumed it was not Jay, but maybe it is.

Steve 14:07

Yeah, I assumed it wasn't as well. Uh, from what I was reading, is this show, like the TV show was way more um uh renegade, I'll go with, than the web series was. Interesting. Because in including uh one of the interviews I read was they showed up basically um to film at Now magazine and were like basically harassing the person at the front desk. And then when they called up saying that there's these two weirdos trying to get in, they were like, Are they calling themselves Nirvana the band? And they said, Yeah, like we would have let them in, but they were just too focused on like keeping it authentic that they just like stormed the office. That's so funny. So I that makes me go, yeah, they probably just called some guy, right? Like, that was my takeaway. Yeah. Because he is so angry so quickly.

Michelle 14:56

Well, I think one of the things that made me think it might have been a scripted bit of it was like he is so disappointed that they don't have photos of their band. And that just seems like such a funny, specific thing that like no normal human's reaction would be like, Well, do you well, do you have a photo of your band? Do you have any evidence? That felt to me like it had to be a setup, whether it's Jay's voice or someone else, um, like to get them on the pipeline to to Sears.

Steve 15:27

One of the only behind-the-scenes thing I saw, and what we'll talk about this guy in a minute, was that they had to like basically coax this man into saying Sears that tells them to go to Sears, because they go to the library and Matt is looking at photos of rock musicians smoking.

Michelle 15:41

Mm-hmm.

Steve 15:42

And they're just like a random poor dude, and they're like, Yeah, they're all smoking, right? And he's like, Yeah, and he clearly does not want to be involved. And shout out to Mark. Shout out, Mark, yeah, real one. And I heard one clip on an interview once where Matt was like, we tried so hard to get this guy to suggest something, and we eventually just had to get him to say Sears for us.

Michelle 16:05

That's really funny, because I one of the moments that I wrote down as like how much I loved it was them just going back and forth and saying, Sears, Sears! And then winding up in a Sears. I think I would have guessed that all of the Sears in the Worlds were closed by 2017, but maybe my timeline and memory is off, or maybe they stayed open longer in Canada. I think the bit where they're looking at the books is really funny to me to watch Matt get really attached to the idea of the thing you do in a photo of a band is smoke a cigarette and you look cool. And then Jay being like the thing you do in a photo of a band is wear cool tight leather pants, and then they just get so fixated on their diverting directions of like what's important in a band photo. It's it's just really it's excellent.

Kit 16:56

Yeah, and then watching Matt try to smoke three in his mouth during that photo, incredible.

Steve 17:02

I was really fascinated by Jay's characterization, especially in the library scene, because in the web series there were parts where he was like trying to be too cool for school, you know what I mean? And he was a little more frustrated. And then this one, he's so wide-eyed and enthusiastic in a way that Web Series Jay wasn't. Yeah. He's like, Matt, check it out, they got all these VHS tapes. Joy in his heart. And I thought that it was interesting to see these characters change, and that Jay seems to have found more wonder, and Matt seems to have lost bravado.

Kit 17:39

Yeah, I think I could see that. I mean, I think another thing that's interesting is that it does feel like the edges have been sanded off a little bit compared to the web series. And so part of that is just like wondering on like a meta level of like, was that intentional because like comedy had changed over the past 10 years to be more like this? Like, were these actual real character choices? Like, I do think the Jay being almost a completely different character was a character choice versus Matt maybe being a little less confident, might just be something that happened through the passage of time.

Steve 18:14

No, you're you're definitely right. And even logistically, they can't be as like big because they had better, bigger cameras. You know what I mean? They had a larger crew. Yeah. And that's harder to make look just like a couple of buddies.

Michelle 18:32

Yeah, and I think I I have to imagine that some amount of it is like that there's just sort of more thought and planning going into it than there was for the web series. And like I it seems by everything that I've seen so far that like there's still a ton of like we'll just film hours and hours and hours and piece something together after it. But there's also like locations and permissions and getting large banners printed that requires a little bit more planning than I think a lot of the web series did. Um, and I'm I'd be so interested when we talk to them to hear about how sort of their philosophy changed as the scope got bigger and there had to be more like logistics involved with putting the show together.

Steve 19:18

There is one shot that I kept thinking about, and I don't even know if you two notice this, because it's one second, where they use this shot of this woman looking directly down the camera lens and waving.

SPEAKER_05 19:32

Oh, I don't think I noticed serious.

Steve 19:34

No, like on the street, like they're walking in Toronto, right? And they're showing like a bunch of people, and then there's it the camera's on this one woman, and she just goes like at the camera. I thought it was really interesting to keep that shot in because it is, I think, the first time we have seen a random person basically address that they're being filmed for a TV show. And for me, I know it's like a minuscule thing, but for me that shifts things a little bit. It's not, it feels more like these guys are making a show. Yeah. You know, like making a show versus making like a web series where they're just trying to like have their buddies film them. I don't know if that makes sense. You know, like it just there's like a shift to that, like this acknowledgement of we're performing, basically.

Michelle 20:23

No, I think that's interesting because I think there's a lot in the web series that is like, you know, whether people around them were aware or not, it is presented in a way that makes it seem like the cameras are always like either invisible or like someone's hiding behind a tree or a car. Like it feels very voyeuristic in a way that at least this first episode of the Vice Land show feels a lot less. Like it feels it feels like the camera people are more obvious and more part of it. And like even the shots of like people sitting outside at the rivalry and reacting, it feels like there's some amount of that that they're doing that because like they could maybe tell that they're being filmed. But I don't know. Maybe they're also just reacting to the banner that they see across the street.

Kit 21:09

I love the lead up to that because the first time I watched it, I didn't notice the placement of the thumb on the photo every single time. And the second time I was like, this is incredible shit.

Michelle 21:22

Yeah. And it's it's it's amazing that it doesn't feel like obvious that they are hiding part of the photo when they're doing that. Because once you go back and watch it again, it's like, oh my god, of course. But I I had no clue and like would not have guessed that that was gonna be. Like, I was like, oh, there's gonna be something wrong with the poster, or it's gonna like have a weird placement, and did not did not see the twist that was coming. Um, which that which was that, you know, once they got their beautiful Sears photo blown up and put on put on the building across the street from the Rivoli, Jay's penis is out. That had to have been a reference to. The Lenny Kravitz incident, right? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:02

Mm-hmm.

Michelle 22:03

Yeah. Famously, Lenny Kravitz performing in very tight leather pants like Rockstar does. Um split his split his pants open while he was slapping around. Sick guitar solo. What a cool dude. What a cool dude.

Steve 22:17

Can we rewind a little bit and talk about the the Sears photo shoot scene?

Michelle 22:22

Yeah.

Steve 22:22

Because first of all, this woman is just an the photographer, an absolute professional.

Michelle 22:27

Oh, she's amazing.

Steve 22:28

She's so gentle with them.

Michelle 22:30

Yeah. I love that she's giving them a little bit of life advice. It's like, mate, but sometimes when we try to act cool in a way that we aren't, it doesn't feel it doesn't feel good in the photo. And she has like a vision for how they're standing. I love her. Queen.

Steve 22:44

And she does she does like does not look at like the camera. She's just focused on them, being in the moment. Mad and Jay are being goofballs. And it Two professionals respecting each other's camera work. And I watched this three times, getting ready for this week. So I was having a week. And I I noticed that they just they match her energy so well. Like they're not getting super zany. Like they're being goofballs, like Matt's trying to smoke three cigarettes and Jay's like squatting weird and all that. But they're not trolling her, they're just playing their characters. And that felt like such a growth from them just acting like lunatics in the web series.

Michelle 23:30

Yeah, totally. What what a what a lovely woman. I did think there was an interesting bit of what feels to me who has seen the movie Foreshadowing, where Jay in the photo shoot is like, you know, if you think if you think it looks cool and like the pants look cool, we could do an adjust me. Um that I'd be curious if there was any intentional link when they started making the movie of Jay breaking out and going solo. I don't know how much of a theme that's gonna be in the Vice Land show.

Steve 24:00

I'll never tell.

Michelle 24:01

Remember that movie?

Kit 24:02

No. No.

Steve 24:04

What are you talking about?

Kit 24:05

Thought you were doing Gossip Girl.

Steve 24:07

I'm not a gossip girl. I'm an honest girl.

Michelle 24:10

The pretty little liars theme.

Steve 24:11

It was Brittany Murphy, where she like had she was like a lady with like it was a thriller, and the whole trailer was her going, I'll never tell. And everybody I knew cited it over and over again. Nope.

Kit 24:22

Nope.

unknown 24:22

God.

Steve 24:23

You guys miss so much being years younger than me.

Kit 24:26

Yeah, I think about that every day. You miss so much? Miss so much. Why am I not the same age as Steve?

Michelle 24:32

Yeah. If only.

Steve 24:33

If only. You just don't you don't want to speedrun your 30s?

Kit 24:35

No.

Steve 24:36

I already feel like I am. I know this is not important.

Kit 24:40

Okay.

Steve 24:41

But I saw the Masters of the Universe movie this week.

Kit 24:44

Mm-hmm. Oh, the He-Man movie?

Steve 24:46

Yeah. I've never seen a big budget movie aimed directly at people 40 and older, and I felt guilty enjoying it. But you've seen Master and Commander. Yeah, but that there's a difference between a dad movie and a we're making a child's blockbuster for is a 40-year-olds.

Kit 25:06

Is the movie about two men in love on a ship not just an action figure movie in a way? I wish it was.

Steve 25:16

I mean, that would be an ideal movie for me.

Kit 25:19

Do they do that in the He-Man movie?

Steve 25:21

They don't kiss, but they do talk about toxic masculinity quite a bit.

Kit 25:24

That's nice. Okay. Skeleto does?

Steve 25:27

No. He- Jared Leto Skeletor. He's just running around being like, I'm Jared Leto.

Kit 25:32

And not even doing the voice. What are we doing here?

Steve 25:35

It's a me, Morbius.

Michelle 25:38

It's Morbin time.

Steve 25:40

Do you remember how angry you were when in the film Morbius, he doesn't say, uh, we are Venom? Just kidding, I'm Dr. Michael Morbius.

Michelle 25:51

Yeah, I think about it every single day.

Steve 25:54

I have never seen you so angry.

Kit 25:56

You were about to like rip the chair off from the theater and throw it at the screen. It was crazy. Mm-hmm.

unknown 26:03

Yeah.

Michelle 26:03

You said in the theater, what the fuck? He didn't say it. Well, he didn't. And also nobody else was in the theater with us, so it was okay for me to yell that.

Steve 26:13

Leave we spent money to rent a private theater for Morbius.

Kit 26:19

Yes. Yes, because I was there, and it is the least insane thing we've done as a group.

Steve 26:23

I don't know if it's the least insane thing.

Kit 26:26

It's pretty low on the list.

Steve 26:28

I mean, fair. I'm gonna say we were early adopters of Wonka. Wonka became a smash hit, but we were there.

Kit 26:34

We were taste makers, you could say, for Wonka.

Steve 26:37

It made over half a billion dollars.

Michelle 26:39

And that was all from us. Yes. That was from me buying those hat-shaped gummies.

Steve 26:45

And me buying whatever that beverage was I got that looked like slob at the Wonka menu.

Kit 26:52

Uh listeners, please Google the iHop Willy Wonka menu if you don't remember this. Uh, and just look at the photos.

Michelle 26:59

It's so gross. Everything was just covered in weird purple goo and edible gold dust.

Steve 27:06

And they look disgusted that we were there to order it. They were concerned for us. And they should have been. That was right for them to do. It was opening night of Wonka a block from the theater. Wonder was in the air. Do you know they opened an iHop right by my apartment and I'm waiting for the perfect novelty menu to go back? Oh my god.

Michelle 27:24

No. I'm really excited to find out what is it. I'm honestly surprised that there isn't a He-Man novelty menu. Or maybe there is, and that's just not perfect for you.

Steve 27:33

It's yeah. I don't know who that movie is for. I guess me. They got your number and they made a movie just for you. I have AMCA list. I will my bar has fallen off a cliff of what I'm willing to see in the theater.

Michelle 27:48

I love how much of this episode of the show was just like a general appreciation for Jurassic Park and them watching and enjoying Jurassic Park. Um I had a really nice time watching a little bit of Jurassic Park with Matt and Jay.

Kit 28:03

It's a great movie. It's so good. And I want to watch Jurassic Park with them.

Michelle 28:07

Mm-hmm.

Kit 28:08

Same.

Steve 28:09

I'm still astounded. There we go. That they fucking just use the music and show the movie.

Kit 28:17

Okay, we're fine.

Steve 28:18

Yeah. Wait, do you think I was gonna say I never saw Jurassic Park?

Kit 28:20

No, I I thought we were gonna go on like a Spielberg situation.

Michelle 28:24

You looked like you were really winding up for a good tangent.

Kit 28:28

Yeah.

Michelle 28:28

Well, I did see Disclosure Day last night.

Steve 28:30

Would you like me to go off on that for 45 minutes?

Kit 28:32

Actually, yeah, I sent a very important message to you and you never responded about disclosure day.

Steve 28:36

What did you send to me about disclosure day?

Kit 28:37

I I I sent you a voice memo asking you if I should see it in IMAX or not.

Steve 28:42

Oh, I didn't play the voice memo because I have been running around the maniacal. You should see it in IMAX because the sound is unbelievable. Okay.

Kit 28:51

Because we were thinking about seeing it at the theater near us, but then it's just like, or we could see it in IMAX, but IMAX.

Steve 28:57

We saw it in a in a Limax screen. You know, the ones that have the IMAX sound system and project on IMAX, but they're not a full IMAX size screen.

Kit 29:04

No, I didn't know that was a thing. It's a thing.

Steve 29:07

Oh. Um blew the fucking doors off the place, man. I love Steven Spielberg so much.

SPEAKER_05 29:13

You know this unpopular opinion.

Steve 29:15

You know, I've been shit on by my film friends for my love of Steven Spielberg many times.

Kit 29:21

Oh, I don't understand that. He did Jaws.

Steve 29:24

Yeah, I know.

Kit 29:25

Like, how can you shit on the guy who did Jaws?

Steve 29:28

Because he ruined New Hollywood, but that was actually Heaven's Gate. The cult. The movie, not the cult. I was gonna say, what? The movie that bankrupted United Artists. Let's take that all out.

Kit 29:39

But um why?

Steve 29:41

Do the people need to hear a disclosure day talk? Every time that's mostly should you see it in IMAX.

Kit 29:47

Every time you say take that out, the only thing I take out is you saying, Let's take that out, and I leave it in. I don't know if you've noticed that in the edits.

Steve 29:57

Sometimes you do leave in but get that out part.

Kit 30:01

Just to let you know.

Steve 30:03

But yeah, disclosure day, IMAX fucking rips. I've never been an Emily Blunt fan. She's unbelievable.

Michelle 30:09

Oh, I am an Emily Blunt fan. I love lady.

Steve 30:14

Just I cried. I mean, that doesn't take much. There's an alien in it. What else do you need?

Michelle 30:19

I love an alien.

Steve 30:20

It made me want to watch ET again.

Michelle 30:21

Oh. I didn't think it would be that kind of alien movie.

Steve 30:26

It's not. It's also not what you think it is, and that's what makes it delightful.

Michelle 30:30

Interesting.

Steve 30:37

I mean, you don't want me to spoil it.

Kit 30:39

So you're saying Steven Spielberg, halfway through the movie, doesn't just appear on screen and say aliens are real and then then start going through a PowerPoint? Like it's inconvenient truth.

Michelle 30:48

He actually shows up, he stands up in the audience of whatever theater you happen to be in, like in Megalopolis. Oh my god. Which I didn't see, but I know about. And I did.

Kit 31:00

Did you get a guy standing in? We got a guy. Oh huge. Hell yeah.

Steve 31:04

It was labeled as Megalopolis, the ultimate experience. Was the guy Adam Driver? No, it was just a fucking AMC guy because the audio's pre-recorded. Sucks. But the only thing I will say, and this isn't a spoiler, that Spielberg utilizes some real alien conspiracy theories as part of the discussion of aliens.

Michelle 31:27

Whoa. Like the pyramid stuff or weirder things?

Steve 31:31

Weirder.

Michelle 31:32

Oh I'm excited.

Steve 31:33

One that made me hoot and holler in the theater, and I realized I was the only one that knew what it was referencing.

Michelle 31:40

Oh. I'm so curious if I'm gonna know.

Steve 31:42

You probably won't. It's it's real Steve Brain shit.

Michelle 31:45

Mm-hmm.

Steve 31:46

Hmm. Well, as we know, I'm I'm the secret freak. Yeah, but you're also not secretly a hundred-year-old person.

Kit 31:53

I don't know that we know of.

Steve 31:54

It's true.

Kit 31:55

I've never seen her birth certificate.

unknown 31:56

True.

Steve 31:57

How then is this gonna become a Michelle Truther podcast?

Kit 32:01

How old are you? Where's the birth certificate?

Steve 32:07

Obamna! Haven't gotten to say that in a few episodes. Oh my god. Anyway, back on track.

Michelle 32:14

I love Jurassic Park. I love Jurassic Park. Um, I love that that there is an actual like Matt turning Jay's head. Gay should have been the big banner beautiful. It is yeah. You wouldn't do that if you weren't in love.

Kit 32:30

No, you wouldn't.

Steve 32:30

It's true. But also them playing the music and then showing people at the Rivoli looking and kind of framing it like Lara Dern was so good. And just for an editing reasons, they deserve so much credit for that. So just the dicks hanging out, and Matt says one of the greatest runs of insults. It's so good I've ever seen.

Michelle 32:55

And it that it's just happening like mostly in the background while while Jay is like looking around and panicking is so, so funny to me.

Steve 33:04

Oh, I told you guys, I told you, don't wear the pants, but you still don't wear the pants, and now you're looking like the dick man, looking like the penis dude.

Kit 33:13

I love that line so much. It's so funny. And then the bit right after that where he's like, this is some like epic Greek shit. It's so good.

Steve 33:22

It is an all-timer of a Matt Johnson run.

Michelle 33:25

One of the other things on the actual banner itself that I wanted to talk about. There's a phone number on the banner that I was very curious about. And I thought maybe we could call it together. Do it. One moment, please. Toronto area code 416.

Steve 33:42

Someone here is unlimited long distance on nights and weekends.

Michelle 33:45

Oh yeah.

Steve 33:46

Wow.

Michelle 33:46

One one moment. They changed the way that phones work, and now you have to press so many more things.

Kit 33:51

This is why I think you're a hundred years old.

Steve 33:53

You gotta put on speaker, friend.

unknown 33:55

Fuck.

Michelle 33:56

I am a hundred years old.

Steve 33:57

She's used to her rotary.

Michelle 33:59

You are calling is unavailable at the moment.

SPEAKER_05 34:02

Please try again later.

Michelle 34:04

Um yeah, it's not very exciting. I called it earlier to see. Um, and I mostly was really tickled by the the clear Canadian accent of the woman who tells you that that number is disconnected. Please try again later.

Steve 34:17

Apparently it used to be something, but I don't know what it was. Listeners, let us know.

Michelle 34:21

Yeah, I feel like someone has to have the the lore on where that connected. I tried to find it and uh same and could not could not get any actual information.

Steve 34:31

It's incredibly strange that for a cult object, there's really not a lot you can research. Yeah. There is more information on the Chris Gethard dumpster episode than there is on Nervata the Panda show.

SPEAKER_05 34:43

I think more people watch the Chris Gethard dumpster episode.

Steve 34:47

This is on the uh the the night after Chris Gethard had recreated his dumpster episode, which homework for listeners. If you have not seen the Chris Gethard show's one man trash episode, you must don't look up anything about it.

Kit 35:06

It will ruin it. Just find the episode, don't read the comments, don't go any further, just watch it.

Steve 35:12

It is one of those pieces of culture that has made our friendship closer.

Michelle 35:18

Yes.

Steve 35:18

I would put it up there with Rap City Street Kids Believe in Santa.

Michelle 35:23

Uh it's it's so so good. I feel like we watched it together a couple years ago, and I was hooting and hollering at at the entire show and then the reveal at the end. It's it's incredible.

Steve 35:38

Yeah, and there's there are these pieces of media that I I've shared with the two of you that made me go, I'm glad we're friends, because you bought in on them, including the Adam Palley hosting the late, late show infamous episode in a blizzard.

Michelle 35:52

It's really good. Adam Palley is is one of my all-time um big crushes, and and I love him and will look watch anything he does. What a guy. Adam Riley coming in. Yeah. Yeah. I think we should.

Steve 36:06

Can that be our Christmas special? You release a commentary on Rhapsody Street Kids Believe in Santa?

Michelle 36:10

Oh my god, yes. Yes, of course.

Steve 36:12

All right. I wanted to get that on the record.

Michelle 36:14

We're watching it anyway. We might as well. Yeah. We watch it every year. I think we've been watching this for five or six years around Christmas time.

Steve 36:24

2020, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25. This will be our seventh year of watching Rhapsody Street Kids at Christmas.

Kit 36:30

And every year it gets better and better and better. I'm getting so close to understanding what his grandma is saying.

Steve 36:36

Herman Christmas.

Michelle 36:39

Um, if you're not familiar with this, it is uh just just a horrendously animated Christmas special.

Kit 36:46

No, beautiful. Pixar could never.

Steve 36:50

Pixar could never. I bet the fan base of Nirvana the Band, the show, and Rhapsody Street Kids.

Kit 36:58

Circle.

Steve 36:59

Circle, absolute circle. If anyone listening to this hasn't watched that, I would be floored.

Michelle 37:06

This is the thing that that like because we watch it around Christmas time, sometimes I'm at my parents or at my in-laws, and I have had to like sneak away to watch it. And someone's like, What are you doing? I'm like, Oh, I have to watch a movie with my friends. Please don't ask me any questions. I don't I don't want to explain. And then I get the song stuck in my head for the next six months of uh I'm the best kid in the world.

Steve 37:31

So do you remember Nirvana the Band, the show? It's late, everybody. It is late. We've had long weeks.

Michelle 37:39

I the reaction to realizing that Jay's penis is out on the banner is so funny to me that they immediately like go home, get a paint roller and wood varnish and um giant paper mache heads, one of Matt himself, I think, and then Jay is a vampire who also looks like himself. It's perfect.

Kit 38:05

Yeah, I mean, Matt just jumps into action immediately. Like, I mean, after roasting Jay, and then seeing Jay's actually very much upset, he's like, all right, we'll fix this. Like, it's fine.

Steve 38:14

Yeah. You know what those masks are referencing, right?

Michelle 38:17

No. They looked familiar, but I don't know where they come from.

Steve 38:21

There is a singer named um Frank Sidebottom, which is a fictional character, actual singer that they then made a movie about with Michael Fossbender, who performs in a mask that looks exactly like that. And it was such a weird specific reference. If you Google Frank Sidebottom, it's a fun name.

Michelle 38:41

Is it Michael Fossbender?

Steve 38:43

Is it? Maybe I'm wrong.

Michelle 38:45

Gene Reno. Yeah, Michael Fossbender. I was right. Oh, I have seen this. I think I assumed that this was related to Mr. Bean.

Steve 38:55

Hmm.

Michelle 38:56

Somehow.

Steve 38:57

That is incredible. That you're like, this has got to be related to Mr. Bean. It looks like Mr. Bean. Yeah, you're right. It does kind of look like Mr. Bean. You're right. Either way, they got these beautiful, oddly specific referenced masks. Yeah, that is really nice. I just thought that was fun, that they put that much work into just making a reference for what, seven people? Yeah.

Michelle 39:18

I mean, not having any clue what the reference was about, I really enjoyed that they were wearing gigantic paper mache heads. Yeah.

Steve 39:25

And their logic being, if we're wearing disguises of ourselves, no one will think it's us. Yeah. That's good logic. I I wouldn't have thought it was them. No. Though Matt should have had a hat on his hand. He should have. Yeah. I love this woman that comes out of the store when they're trying to paint over the dick.

SPEAKER_03 39:43

Mm-hmm.

Steve 39:44

Because she does not care that there are two maniacs in a mask with a giant paint roller. And they're like, Yeah, there's a dick on your building, we're gonna get it off. And she's just like, when are you guys gonna be done?

Kit 39:54

Like she's just not having it. The most over it retail worker, you know.

Michelle 39:58

And we salute you guys. Yeah. She's very powerful. I wouldn't want her to be disappointed in me. I would want to hurry up and get out of her way. Exactly so.

Steve 40:07

Oh, we also left out a major plot point, which is when watching Jurassic Park, they realize that Samuel L. Jackson stays calm because he's smoking. So they calm Jay down by having him start smoking.

Kit 40:18

Yep.

Steve 40:19

Yeah.

Kit 40:19

Yeah.

Steve 40:20

And it works immediately. And Matt realizing that they replaced somebody replaced my paint with wood varnish, which is obscene. And trying to paint and then accidentally painting an arrow pointing at the dick.

Michelle 40:35

It's a good joke. And it's done so flawlessly. Like in the same vein as the like finger over that part of the picture. He's like painting and he tries to like lean the roller and then it slips and then it slips again. And it just seems so natural.

Steve 40:52

I couldn't believe it. That's the part I was like really gobsmacked by is how perfect of an arrow he makes by just flopping around. It's not the only thing flopping around. That's true.

Michelle 41:04

I'm just going to sit for myself.

Steve 41:07

That's the straightest looking hangy dick I've ever seen.

unknown 41:12

What?

Michelle 41:13

It's just like boop. Um, when you say straightest looking, do you mean in terms of uh like in like a gender and sexuality way or like in a measuring like a ruler angle mathematical kind of way?

Steve 41:28

Because I And like you you could put a level on the side of it and it would just come back. Oh, I see.

Kit 41:33

Because I was interpreting your statement as like, wow, that's a straight man's dick. And I was like that.

Michelle 41:37

That's the dick that a straight man would Photoshop onto that thing. Yeah. Yeah. I think it I think it might be both.

Kit 41:44

Yeah.

Michelle 41:45

I think it fits both criteria equally.

Kit 41:47

Breaking news. We've we've determined it. It's both.

Michelle 41:51

It's both?

SPEAKER_03 41:52

Yes.

Michelle 41:54

Um I did have a note on That's a dick that's never explored. You're right. Uh that it that it is it is a very um it's it's a very generous penis. And I don't and it's not something that I want to like dive deep into, but it is uh it is big, both like in because it's on an enormous poster, and um it's like oh okay.

Steve 42:23

Good on you, Matt sister.

SPEAKER_05 42:25

Oh yeah. Oh my god.

Steve 42:26

So what I was curious about is obviously it was photoshopped on, but like, because otherwise the woman at Sears would have seen a dick hanging out in her studio. Do we think the dick was added in post or it was actually hanging on a banner?

Kit 42:42

You know, I'm full conspiracy theory. I that dick was real. Was real, it was really on that banner. That banner really was set on fire. I all of that really happened.

Michelle 42:53

The end. Well, the fire trucks were there. Of course. Of course, there was a real fire.

Kit 42:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Steve 42:59

Yeah. Matt lighting up a cigarette to calm down and then setting the pole on fire that sets the banner on fire. Is Buster Keaton-esque in how perfectly that physical comedy is.

Michelle 43:14

It's really, really good.

Steve 43:16

And it just goes up so fast.

Michelle 43:19

Yeah. It's fire moves very, very quickly, especially when you have a giant sign covered in wood varnish.

Kit 43:28

I will say that the banner lighting on fire is one of my favorite things to watch someone else watch when it comes to showing someone that episode. Because I I think it's we're having silly goofy fun, like whatever. And then there's that moment of like watching your friend or family member see that light on fire and that moment of realization of like, oh my God. And then, is that real? And then refusing to explain any further. It's very powerful.

Steve 43:56

Which is what happened today. My mother in law was like, what? That's so funny. Because later they cut to footage of a fire and she's like, Oh my god. Yeah. Well the fire that they caused.

Kit 44:08

Yeah.

Steve 44:08

That was real.

Michelle 44:09

It's a documentary.

Kit 44:10

Yes.

Steve 44:11

Nirvana the band, the documentary.

Kit 44:13

Which is why we need Werner Herzog.

Steve 44:15

We'll send a follow-up email on the pod. Please. Oh Werner. Send him an Instagram message.

Michelle 44:21

Yeah.

Kit 44:22

We could give him an award for coming on the podcast. Give him a little trophy. Yeah.

Steve 44:26

He loves little trophies. You know, listeners, I just need you to know. This is not a bit. If anyone has a line to Werner Herzog, reach out. We would love to have him on the show.

Michelle 44:37

I'm scared. Because asking asking has made things happen before. Name one thing.

Steve 44:46

DBD?

Michelle 44:47

Uh, but it just I it's just Carson.

Steve 44:50

Yeah. Our friend, our buddy. Friend of the show, Carson. Uh, I just yeah, if you guys got a line to Werner, get him on the show. I'll talk to him about anything. Klaus Kinsky. We can help him pull a boat over a mountain. Sure.

Michelle 45:05

Yeah.

Steve 45:05

Could you imagine Matt Johnson's Fitzcaraldo remake?

Michelle 45:08

I bet Matt could pull a boat over a mountain. No problem. No problem. That guy's so strong.

Steve 45:13

Okay. Somebody, you need to get onto Blender and uh animate Matt Johnson doing a one-man Fitzcaraldo. Unbelievable. So yeah, Vernon Horizon, and if you got a line to the Canada arm of the ISS, please put them on as well.

Kit 45:27

Please.

Steve 45:28

Um, anything else you want to talk about on the banner? Uh Matt makes has a comment that I have repeated to people who have not forgotten what I was referencing before when I've choked. It's because Matt's doing like is smoking cigarettes and doing this monologue, being like a gangster. Mm-hmm and being like, oh, this guy, I'm gonna make a hot poker up his ass, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's just like getting more and more disturbing. And then he inhales smoke and coughs and goes, in the eye, down the wrong pipe at the same time. No, sorry, it's Matt says, wrong pipe in the eye, same time, and then they decide to quit smoking.

Kit 46:09

And it's just that easy.

Steve 46:11

Yeah. I mean, they've only been smoking for like a week.

SPEAKER_05 46:14

Yeah. Should be fine.

Steve 46:15

Yeah. Famously an easy thing to do.

SPEAKER_05 46:18

So easy.

Steve 46:19

Yeah. What a delightful start to a show. What a solid pilot.

Michelle 46:24

I love when a show is self-front self. I love when a show is self-referential in the way that this one is, where they're spending the whole time, the whole beginning of it, talking about like we gotta make a good first impression in our pilot. And then after the disastrous series of events that unfolds, it ends with them going, that was a bad first impression. Really, really tickles me.

Steve 46:48

What cutie pies? Talented cutie pies.

Kit 46:51

Any uh any other thoughts on this one? I love Jurassic Park. I love Laura Dern. I love cigarettes. I love Sam Neil. Sam Neil.

SPEAKER_03 47:00

Mm-hmm.

Michelle 47:01

I also did have a note in in my notes for this episode that said, why is this an ad for cigarettes? Is Kit gonna be okay?

Kit 47:09

Uh for our listeners, I smoked for about 10 years. Uh, I quit smoking the end of last year. Um, and we started watching Nirvana the Band to the start of this year. Um and I was about two months smoke-free when I watched the banner. And I was going through it watching this episode for the first time because let me tell you, smoking does relax you. It really does.

Michelle 47:35

And this episode makes cigarettes look really cool and fun.

Kit 47:39

Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

Michelle 47:40

Kit, I'm so proud of you.

Kit 47:42

Oh, thanks. I will die wanting a cigarette, but you know, it's fine. Moving on.

Steve 47:49

But that's like me and Mozzarella.

Kit 47:51

It's the same thing. It's screwing up your lungs.

Steve 47:54

Mm-hmm. Screwing up my tumtums. This is like the third time we've referenced me being lactose intolerant on this podcast.

Kit 48:03

Lactose come on the pod.

Steve 48:06

No, please don't. Things they know about all of us. Kit used to smoke. I can't eat dairy.

Michelle 48:12

I'm an ambiguous age. They're maybe over a hundred.

Steve 48:18

We're a mystery wrapped in an enigma. We have listener voicemails. Oh, we do.

Michelle 48:25

Oh, nice. I forgot. I genuinely did forget.

Steve 48:29

So we have a voicemail from Listener Alexander. Let's go ahead and hear that now.

SPEAKER_00 48:34

Um, although I've been listening to the podcast as I've been cooking myself dinner. And it's a very lovely experience so far, but I um I'm like midway through the first episode, and um found myself getting a little uh laughing a little when you guys started to discuss how the Rivoli is also a restaurant space. Um I just got back from a trip last week to Toronto um and that trip I have started to refer to it as the nirvana the band, the religious pilgrimage, because me and a friend went and we just you know we figured hey we're here so we uh went to as many uh as many uh like locations featured in you know the show or the movie as is uh was reasonable and normal to do. But we did go to the riverly and I I will say if you end up in Toronto, the Riverly has it has very good food and um it's a really good space. But yeah, I think it's I think it's funny that you know the Rivley being a restaurant is only mentioned like what is the buddy season two of the Viceland show because I mean it's it's a good good little spot to eat. So definitely a recommendation if you end up getting into Toronto. Thank you so much for calling in.

Steve 50:03

That was delightful.

Kit 50:04

So fun. I love that we could hear you cooking dinner in the background. I wonder what you were making.

Steve 50:10

That was my thought the whole time.

Kit 50:11

Yeah, what you got in that pan. Tell us.

Steve 50:14

Call back in, tell us the recipe. Because yeah, it sounded it sounded pretty good. There's a lot of clanking, you know, it's a good sign.

Michelle 50:22

And also please tell us more about your religious pilgrimage because you know, I think eventually we're gonna be taking one of our own, and we'll need some some sights and sounds, and and I've got this big list of things to do and see in the scarb robe bluffs, but nowhere else in Toronto.

Steve 50:39

Well, yeah, I want also want to know what you ate at the Rivoli.

Michelle 50:42

Mm-hmm. Yeah. I've never looked at the menu, and I feel like I should.

Steve 50:46

Michelle, would you like to give us uh a rundown?

Michelle 50:50

Yeah, there are a lot of restaurants called The Rivoli. I had to I had to add Toronto.

Kit 50:55

Guys, they have a catering menu. Do you think that we can get them to deliver to New York?

Steve 51:00

Gonna use Goldbelly to get food to the Rivoli.

Michelle 51:02

The very first item on The Rivoli's menu is Wookie Balls. Rivoli's classic sesame coated deep-fried sticky rice balls with the sweet chili dipping sauce. That sounds lovely.

Steve 51:15

Not the name though.

Michelle 51:16

Not the name, but the food sounds nice. Spring rolls with mango plum sauce, crispy pork and leek dumplings, Rivley burger? Rivoli's classic pad Thai is the only entree on their menu.

Kit 51:30

I can't believe that's real.

Michelle 51:32

This a lot of this sounds really good, but I'm also quite confused by it. I don't think I expected there to be a lot of Thai food on this menu. Um passing.

Steve 51:44

And a burger together.

Michelle 51:46

And a burger. And an impossible burger. And a fried chicken sandwich.

Steve 51:49

Didn't I I believe Alamo tried to recreate the fried chicken sandwich for their menu for the movie?

SPEAKER_05 51:56

Oh, that's nice. Did you get to try it?

Steve 51:59

No.

SPEAKER_05 51:59

No.

Steve 52:00

Because they wanted me to order on my fucking phone.

SPEAKER_05 52:02

Oh shit, yeah.

Michelle 52:04

Um, I am delighted to announce that on their wine list they have both a Wayne Gretzky Merlot and under White Wines, there's one just labeled Wayne Gretzky.

Kit 52:16

Does Wayne Gretzky own a winery?

Steve 52:18

I guess so. Do you think you miss 100% of the sips you don't take?

Michelle 52:23

Wayne Gretzky Estates Winery near Niagara Falls. Hmm.

Steve 52:28

Do you think he's gonna sell half of it and then make Megalopolis too? The Wayne Gretzky edition?

Michelle 52:33

Maybe. Wow. I'm learning so much. Oh, he also has a rose. Thank you so much, Wayne Gretzky. But also, maybe you have bad politics.

Steve 52:41

Yeah, Wayne Gretzky has bad politics. Bummer.

Michelle 52:45

Um, on the Rivali's cocktail menu, they have uh a Rivoloma. Ooh. Tequila, pineapple juice, grapefruit juice, lime, simple syrup, and tonic. That sounds lovely. I would pay $17.70 Canadian cents for one of those.

SPEAKER_05 53:01

This is a very well put together menu. They have a very extensive bar menu, which is exciting to me.

Michelle 53:08

Okay. Well, we're going. I can't wait. I can't wait for us to go and get the Wookie Balls and a Wayne Gretzky wine.

Steve 53:14

I just this is uh this is a hang up of mine. Even if something's delicious, I cannot order something with a novelty name like that.

Michelle 53:22

That seems pretty rich coming from someone who just said that they were waiting for the right novelty menu at IHOP. That's right. Get them, Michelle.

Steve 53:32

I will. Here's the thing. I will point at it and be like, can I have the Willy Wook pick? I'm not gonna use the name. The purple. I I want this, the Wookie Balls. I'll look like someone who just like can't read. The Leah Michelle of the Rivoli.

Michelle 53:50

I wonder if she's performed there.

Steve 53:52

You guys know that conspiracy theory, right? Yeah.

Michelle 53:54

That Leah Michelle can't read?

Steve 53:56

Yeah, okay, yeah.

Michelle 53:56

It's not a conspiracy theory. She cannot read. I've seen a lot of very compelling evidence that would suggest that that she is illiterate and very talented. What a lovely voice. Can't read a word. Can't read. Jonathan Groff has to do her reading for her.

Steve 54:13

Adorable. I wish Jonathan Groff would do reading for me.

Michelle 54:16

He might. Have you asked? Yeah.

Steve 54:18

No, I just went, a woo-ga. Of course. That's to replace Humina Humina on this podcast. And we wrap this sucker up.

Kit 54:33

Well, thank you to Did we say the person's name who Alexander? Okay. Thank you. I think it's Alexander.

Steve 54:40

Yeah, no, Alexander, thank you and for getting us to uh look up that delightful sounding menu.

Michelle 54:45

Um and please call back and let us know if you had the Wookie balls. Thank you very much. And if you had uh Wayne Gretzky Rose. Yes, we need to know.

Kit 54:53

And if you are not Alexander and you've had the Wookie balls, please let us know. I need a full report on what they tasted like. Thanks. Yeah.

Steve 55:01

And if we don't hear back, that means uh they stopped finding us delightful after the first episode.

Kit 55:06

Understandable.

Steve 55:07

Yeah, no, I don't blame anyone.

Kit 55:08

Yeah, we kind of suck.

Steve 55:09

Nope. No, we're fucking great. We're we're funny, we're sexy, we're yeah, we got everything going for us.

Michelle 55:16

We're over a century old. We? Yeah. Huh. All of us.

unknown 55:21

Okay.

Steve 55:21

Do you think that there's a portrait in Michelle's attic that's just really fucking mangled?

Kit 55:26

Oh, for sure.

Steve 55:29

We finally put one Michelle conspiracy theory to rest. Another one started another one.

Kit 55:35

How old are you?

Steve 55:37

I'll never tell. Stop the steal. Anywho, so that was the end of the banner. There were dicks, there was fire, there were VHS tapes.

Michelle 55:47

There was a large-scale printer. Shout out to people who work in print shops. You're doing good work. Hell yeah.

Steve 55:54

Those guys seemed so professional.

Michelle 55:56

I really loved that. I uh I didn't bring it up because there wasn't much to say, but uh I I just want everyone to know that I really did enjoy the interlude in the print shop.

Steve 56:05

Me too. I also was adding in my notes. Print shop, delightful. Uh well, friends, we will see you here next week for another episode of the Viceland series. Um remember, if you have an episode that you want to talk about, now is the time. We record these in advance. Call it in, give us your opinions, give us your fun facts, uh, and we will maybe play it on that episode. How do people call in, Steve? Well, if you want to call in, you can one email us a voice memo at Nerva, you know, send it to nirvana the pod at gmail.com. Or if you want to leave us one that's pretty short, you can go to speakepipe.com slash nirvana the pod. We want to hear from you. Or you can find us on all the social medias. It's at the end of the episode. I recorded that fucker once. I ain't saying it again. Maybe listen to the credits. That's right. I'm calling you out.

Kit 57:01

But we love you, Colin.

Steve 57:03

XOXO love you. And that's why I'm calling you out because I have high standards for you. Because I love you.

Kit 57:10

Calling you in. Be parasocial with us.

Steve 57:14

Please don't. Or do, whatever. Who knows? Be parasocial with Michelle. How old is she? Put your guesses in. It's gonna be like Email us.

SPEAKER_04 57:25

Email us your guesses. The first one who gets it right will win a prize that is undisclosed.

Steve 57:33

Mm-hmm. At some point, we need to come up with something stupid to mail somebody.

Michelle 57:37

Yeah. Oh yeah. I have so many envelopes. Let me put something dumb in them. Why do you have so many envelopes? I like to mail people things and I need them. Okay. I have an envelope with your name on it literally on my table right now that I've just been too lazy to go figure out the shipping label for. That feels really ominous. You should feel scared. Okay, good.

Steve 57:58

You know you're gonna see her in like a week and a half, right?

Michelle 58:01

But that's not the same. I want to put it in the I want to put it in the mail.

Kit 58:04

We already went to the Mets Pride event, remember?

Steve 58:07

Why can't we see each other more than once, kit? I've already seen you once this year. We only get one. I see you all the time. You're your lovely face.

Michelle 58:17

We can't all be physically together too often. Too powerful.

Steve 58:20

It is. It does not end well.

Michelle 58:22

There are only so many novelty menus for us to work through. It's true.

Steve 58:28

I was thinking about the bathroom at Buffalo Bill's house, and how I was the only one brave enough to take a shower.

Michelle 58:34

Oh yeah.

Steve 58:35

Everyone, every we had a packed house, and all of you were like, I'm not gonna try and figure this out. And I was at five in the morning. I was like, I need to figure out how the shower works.

Michelle 58:43

I just took a shower when I got home.

Steve 58:46

I can't go more than like 20 hours without a shower, or I might die. Yeah. I'm I'm a prima donna that way. But anywho, showers aside, send us your voicemails. We want to play them. Send us your voicemails. I want to put a challenge out to our listeners. Oh. We have had our list of guests that we wanted. Who do you think we should have on? And don't say yourself. That's true. That's an easy out. Who do you think will be?

Michelle 59:14

Unless you're Werner Herzog, and then you are allowed to say yourself.

Steve 59:17

Yes.

Michelle 59:18

And if you're listening, that's crazy. Hello. Why have you emailed us?

Kit 59:21

Why haven't you emailed us? We're taking my email every episode.

Steve 59:26

So I want to hear who you think we should try and get on the show and be really overzealous about it.

Michelle 59:32

Yeah. No suggestion too big or too small. We will send a message to literally anyone. It's true. We're idiots.

Steve 59:41

So as always, nothing like a good feeling. Nothing like a good feeling.

Kit 59:45

Nothing like a good feeling.

Steve 59:47

Hi.

SPEAKER_03 59:47

Bye. Bye.

Steve 59:59

Thank you for listening to Nirvana the band The Show the Podcast. We'd love to hear from you. You can email us or send a voice memo to NirvanaThePod at gmail.com. And we're also on Blue Sky and Instagram at Nirvana the Pod. Our website is NirvanaThePod.com. Our show is edited by Kit with additional help by John. Special thanks to Anne Meadows for our logo. Oh, and Matt and Jay, if you're listening, we'd love to have you on the show.